Corruption is better than war and unequality
Corruption is better than war and unequality
*inequality lol
Anyway, do you honestly believe that joining the major countries and making them one big corporation will solve anything? First, it'll create a power struggle among the leaders of all these unified countries. All of them will want to rule. Second, will these unified countries make people the people of Palestine and Iran accept Israel as a country? No. There goes war. Will this end poverty, starvation, and disease in Afirca? No. Will there be equality? No. Whether or not you want to admit it, you know for a fact most black people will still not be able to hold major public offices. Before you label me as a racist and point out people like Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice, and Kofi Annan, I want you to realize that I did not say anything that wasn't true. I'm not a racist, but I do see things as they are and not as how I want them to be. The people in power will still be mostly white people. In fact, uniting all of the most powerful countries will make it a lot easier for them to exploit people. That way, when this corporation-like country does something wrong (i.e. invade another country) who will oppose it? This will actually make it easier on the people in power to take advantage of the lower class. So at that point I think equality goes out the window. In a perfect world where all the people in power in this corporation are nice guys who would never break a law or do anything corrupt for their own benefit, this could work. However, that's not the case and it wouldn't work out.
Here's how a group of intelligent people with high-level degrees reacted to the idea of the World Corporation:
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=320510
Best summation: "Let's just say that the intellect that came up with this idea is consistant with the style of the illustrations he used to explain it."
Where exactly is all the money coming from? Why would any nation give up its sovereignty? Why are you all just desperately hoping for an easy solution to all your problems?
Ok so China and USA have a nuke fight. Right, thats USA and China = gone. As soon as they launch, USSR launches, along with Britain, India, Pakistan, etc. So there goes the whole world to meet your theory. So after this, they suddenly decide to form a large corporation of mutual trust? Get real. Capitalism and communism are mutually exclusive. Then the other blocks - Yes, lets put Israel, Iran, Iraq, Egypt and Turkey in one block! That will work well!
QUESTION: What benefit does Alex Chiu receive from this plan?
ANSWER: I just want the messiah to grant me a few hundred acres of land, a big fat bank account, and some corporation shares so I can live my life comfortably. I don't like politics. In fact, I failed my political science class in college because I kept falling asleep in that class. So I have no intention of becoming a politician.
That explains a fair bit.
The president of China becomes the 'Lord of China' or 'Emperor of China' after he steps down from office.
The irony.
# December, 2018, USA: American income tax is gradually diminishing since wars seize to exist. In the year 2000, an average American citizen paid 35% of income tax. Now, the income tax of an average citizen has decreased to a mere 7%. Lawmakers in Washington are considering dropping the sales tax and the property tax. Americans' livings are becoming more and more comfortable due to these tax cuts.
Please explain how by cutting taxes you will make insane profits, when that is the only source of income.
I can't go on, this is like being hit in the head with the mallet of stupidity.
Maybe like, global GDP goes through the roof, and then you can lower tax rates while actually collecting more money
Maybe like, global GDP goes through the roof, and then you can lower tax rates while actually collecting more money
No.
Ten % of 1000 is 100
Seven % of 1200 is 84
Lower percentage almost always equals a lower end result. What makes you think the global GDP would go up so rapidly anyway? What is everyone going to work with? How is this money being generated anyway?
Its a stupid idea.
Alex Chiu is right.
You are the reason cults exist.
No.
Ten % of 1000 is 100
Seven % of 1200 is 84
And 5% of 3000 is 150
Lower percentage almost always equals a lower end result.
That's kinda funny, you talk about math as if it were something inexact. "Almost always."
It's obviously going to be determined by the ratio of total taxable amount and the tax rate, and that's all.
What makes you think the global GDP would go up so rapidly anyway?
After wars end and there's eternal peace, there will be strong global prosperity. The economy today is stunted by geopolitical instability
If you remember the Clinton years, the stock market was going through the roof.
That was kind of a bubble and a fool's paradise, but it gives you a small taste of what real progress is going to look like, and it will be much better than that actually.
No.
Ten % of 1000 is 100
Seven % of 1200 is 84
And 5% of 3000 is 150
Lower percentage almost always equals a lower end result.
That's kinda funny, you talk about math as if it were something inexact. "Almost always."
It's obviously going to be determined by the ratio of total taxable amount and the tax rate, and that's all.
What makes you think the global GDP would go up so rapidly anyway?
After wars end and there's eternal peace, there will be strong global prosperity. The economy today is stunted by geopolitical instability
If you remember the Clinton years, the stock market was going through the roof.
That was kind of a bubble and a fool's paradise, but it gives you a small taste of what real progress is going to look like, and it will be much better than that actually.
Kind of a bubble? An actual bubble more like it.
War doesn't always mean lower GDP by the way, war increases GDP especially in America due to companies manufacturing the goods needed for war (It isn't government owned).
War isn't the only thing affecting the economy anyway. Global prosperity is occurring even now; we are richer than we ever have been. Most of the world still lives in poverty anyway. How does this organization plan to bring global prosperity to everyone when they have billions of people that they are going to need to account for to make everything equal. How on earth are they going to get the money for that.
The problem no one has addressed as well is living space. As everyone becomes richer, they are going to want more land. As everyone is richer, its going to cost more and more to purchase everything (If everyone has millions, then everything becomes more expensive). How are you going to account for that.
Then you still have inherent failures of the system - if everyone is to become equal, how are you going to pay the people who work beyond the means of others? I mean, a doctor compared to a agriculturist is going to show a significant wage decrease. In your perfect society, everyone is meant to be equal and have access to the same kind of funds.
Although I touched on it earlier, as everyone gains more money, everything thus becomes more expensive. So what would you do about that.
The state of affairs we have now is perfectly fine, thank you very much. Global unions in which everyone is equal and all that crap - Not going to happen, don't bother trying.
Global prosperity is occurring even now; we are richer than we ever have been.
Yes but it would be far better if there was world peace. Just an example, today's markets are trading with a "terror premium"
The state of affairs we have now is perfectly fine, thank you very much. Global unions in which everyone is equal and all that crap - Not going to happen
You're misunderstanding it, World Corp is not about equality between individuals, you still have rich and poor.
I'm a free marketeer and against income redistribution, I wouldn't support the plan if it meant socialism.
What it actually does is it ends war (by making peace more lucrative)
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The issue of government, really isn't political or governmental at all. Emphasis on government is misplaced emphasis, which should be better focused on the root of the core issue at hand: why do people need government to begin with?
The more laws there are, the more oppressed people will become. The more (need for) government there is, the less peace between people there will be. More important than government, is religion and the restoration of genuine esotericism. Then people will have no need for government (once again) because people will be capable of upright lives, their sin will be gone from within them because they know how to remove it.
The bible gives us an example of how universal governance, by a collective group of sinful people is an eyesore whose only remedy is annhialation by flood. Babylon, and the tower of Babel. World Corporation Plan is nothing new. As the bible says, "there is nothing new under the sun". Ecclesiastes 1:9
Alex Chiu treasures the I-Ching, but has he not read the Tao Te Ching? I will include some quotes from it in this post.
The Tao Te Ching is chauk full of reasons to abandon the trust in government in favor of not.
Emptiness is seen as the central part of life, whereas structure and form (and government) are merely detours.
"Therefore the Master acts without doing anything and teaches without saying anything."
True government begins with someone who has achieved mastery, and happens best when that person simply lives their life, then, in the sight of others they serve as an example, without even trying. Jesus did this, and anyone who sees the words of the New Testament recognizes the life of Jesus wasn't lived like Caiphas (the wicked high priest), or Herod (the evil hearted king), or Pilate (the indifferent minded judge). These were true and outstanding examples of typical government officials from each end of the spectrum. Jesus was a homeless man, who dined with people of ill-repute and (appeared to have) broke just about every traditional moral code in a strictly Orthodox part of the world. True authority is devoid of authoritarianism, and as long as sin is in the world, more government and ESPECIALLY the unification of governments, signals the potential for a death knell of vice, manipulation and chaos, beginning with the abuse and violation of already over-accumulated laws, as well as the accumulation of them.
"If you overesteem great men, people become powerless. If you overvalue possessions, people begin to steal."
Monarchy, as infamous as it is, is no less dangerous as capitalism. In a capitalist society, if a company can get away with selling you poison, it will.
Capitalism, in all of it's glory, attempts to bring power to the people, but is no less just a system of government. In bringing more power to the people, there are more people who become corrupt. The powerbase shifts from the top and moves lower, so that instead of purely corrupt government, you have unseen corruption from corporations and individuals who commit unspeakable acts while under the protection of their rights to freedom. The country becomes a breeding ground for infection by crime, as personal liberties are abused to the point of being rediculous.
"If you don't trust the people, you make them untrustworthy."
"When the great Tao is forgotten, goodness and piety appear.
When the body's intelligence declines, cleverness and knowledge step forth. When there is no peace in the family, filial piety begins.
When the country falls into chaos, patriotism is born."
"Throw away morality and justice, and people will do the right thing. Throw away industry and profit, and there won't be any thieves."
How many times has it been said that lawyers will go to hell? If I had a penny for every time I heard that, I would buy Microsoft. Before industrial revolutions came, people actually were thinner, learned skills to craft things on their own of very high value, people weren't dependant upon industry but themselves and their family trades. Not 9-5 slaves without exemption. All technology has done is to make products so abundant and easily made, that the laws requiring one to purchase them with money end up impoverishing more than they help because the ones who would have made them instead, are now unemployed. Before the Mayflower crossed the Atlantic Ocean, you could pitch a tent and live there free. Nowadays if you tried doing that anywhere in America, you'd be on someone's 'percieved' piece of property and be outcast as a "homeless" person who refuses to mow their lawn, pay taxes, or die at age 40 of a heart attack.
I have heard a few times in Africa, that oftentimes charming and handsome children are killed for fear that they will bring new ideas, new technology, and thus bring turmoil to the people. This is no doubt a tradition stemming from bad experiences of the past.
Re: world corp is stupid
World corp is stupid, that is all.
QFT. Dr. Chiuenstein knows as much about politics or economics as your average second-grade-student.
Very good points, Vehcklox. I personally feel that corporation is a bad idea anyway, as it was originally devised to avoid taxes, starting with the merchant class.
I have a converse idea, especially as regards regionalising food sources. What do you think of this?
Won't many problems, especially in the area of crime, decline dramatically by proper upbringing of one's children? That is one of the greatest problems of youth that I see in the "developed" nations; undeveloped kids.
