Who is the biggest leech on society?
Obviously, all these guys are self-obsessed leeches who don't give a sh!t about anyone but themselves, but which one is the ultimate leech on society? They are all so selfish and self-absorbed that I can't choose who is the biggest drain on society's resources! You decide!

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The state is the biggest leech.

Alex, even though he is crazy, at least works for a living. He designed his website himself and i'm sure that i-ching book took a lot of time to do. I also think that he has convinced himself that his inventions actually work. SacJB is a naive young man who invests his money in Alex's schemes. But at least he tries to be self sufficient. Franco is a 34 year old "immortal" who does not work for a living and depends on his parents to support him. I vote Franco.

Yes there is no doubt Franco is the biggest leech. A big blood sucking leech that once it gets on you cannot be pulled off. Then when all your blood is gone it moves to someone else.

Alex probably leeches most by quantity. He actually takes money from thousands of people around the world for products that don't work. True, he is at least self-sufficient in a sort of limited sense, but the reality is that his money comes from sucking desperate people dry. Franco leeches a lot from his parents, and is proud of his desire to be a non-contributing member of society. His attitude might make him a bigger leech than his actual quantity of leeching. SacJB aids and abets Alex Chiu in his drive for ripping off people, and hopes to become a leech on Alex's level. Currently, he is failing at this because of his poor business savvy. He seems to not grasp the idea that his financial woes are of his own doing, and doesn't seem to understand that getting a real job is central to being a productive member of society. Instead, he spends a lot of money on expensive advertising and strippers, and then plays a "hapless victim" role in his quest for getting doctors to provide him free medical treatment as if he deserves it.

Well I still think that Franco is thew biggest leech. He never has worked and believes and has stated for the record that he is entailed not to. Both Alex and SacJB recognize that they must do something for a living. Now looking at Alex. He was a sushi chef before the Immortality thing. Indicating a work ethic. Alex also has apartments that legitimately make money. That is good. So Alex pays taxes. Now with SacJB we must realize that he is young. He did try to work before the rings. And now the reason I supported SacJB getting the doctor to lower his fees was because I knew that SacJB would not get the needed care without that. And I think SacJB is just cheap. Hell he will not even spend the money to contact all the girls that have been asking him for dates on the web profile I set up for him. And that would be like 10 dollars and the cost of a date. And we need to consider that SacJB did sign up at college in a way. And he was asking me many times what a good career would be and how to study for it. And with Alex he has achieved something in life. Outside of the Immortality he is respected as an expert in the I Ching. And even if it is nonsense it gives people pleasure reading and studying his book. And the book is free on line so that says something about Alex having a cause in life. So NO Franco is CLEARLY the leech. Look at it another way. If the three of them were on the street with no money. And you were asleep on a park bench with your wallet next to you. What would each do. Well Alex would be thinking about how to make money waking you up and selling you something. SacJB would be looking to Alex for advice and trying to sell something himself. But Franco...Ah yes Franco would take that wallet. Now that is the difference.

All very good points.

Wow, Franco is winning in a landslide! I think he even voted for himself here!

The most degrading part must be to have to ask his mother for money. Which he has admitted he does. But we also have to note something interesting. That Franco's parent's support is conditional. Because he say that if he comes to the USA he would need a job and to live with Alex. So if he leaves Italy and his parents they will no longer take care of him. So this indicates that his parents have a strong control over him. Probably setting up all kinds of rules. Perhaps a mother that cannot detach and wants a child for life. I will bet you that Franco is an only child. Or was the first or favorite child of the parents. I mean Franco: 1. Has no income of his own. 2. Feels entitled to not work. 3. Does not want a wife. 4. Has no drive to have kid's 5. Expresses no shame 6. Is obsessed with his appearance and immortal status.

7. He thinks he is superior to anyone

8. Is proud of 1-7.

I find it funny that with Franco I can "feel" his brat like nature right through the internet.

I have to defend franco a little here. Of those three, I think Franco is the most willing to admit when he is wrong, and also he is the one who sincerely believes in Alex's products the most. Franco can learn and improve or correct himself but the other two don't show any signs they can do this. Also there is a kind of hatred of freeloaders that is a sickness in USA especially. (Maybe less so in europe) This kind of thinking also says that the desperate, the poor, the ill and handicapped should be left to fend for themselves because they are otherwise freeloaders (why should society care for them when they cannot provide equal return?): exactly the kind of people alex likes to exploit. But even if you say that doesn't matter, it is still Alex who is the mother leech. Without his influence, it is likely that jb and franco would not have thought to behave this way. Where do they get this idea except from alex?