ATAO:"I aggree with some of what you say, but Krsna-Consciousness (whatever that is) and the path of Jesus are not the same thing. Jesus-Conscious sounds like man made it up, the best we can achieve is Christ Like doing our best to act and think like christ and it is not easy." In fact Christ himself was not a good man because he just acted so,but because he was also practicing similar rituals as a Krsna-Bhakti would,but he could no tell that to the people of his time and place,so he told what he could:the birth of Christ-Religion.But it is impossible to act like Christ just by trying normally to do so,one has to TRULY follow Christ and become Christ-Conscious.This is what Christ would like to for everyone to have: the complete end of all miseries to all humans.For all souls have the original Christ-Consciousness that is our original identity,and it is not reached by any outer means(for instance by "acting good"),but only by chanting Christs name(or Krsnas,Yehowas,Allahs,and so on). I myself for instance have a terrible sickness for almost 4 years already,and a few years ago I could hardly even get out of the bed,my muscles were(are) so weak.But now that I chant 2 hours a day,I only sleep 3 hours a day(00-03) and feel incredibly energetic and peaceful inspite of the terrible pains.And I haven´t masturbated of used any alcohol for 2 years,not by trying not to do so,but because I feel all the time like my mother was hugging me(only 1000X stronger) so the body does´nt even want to do so.I am not bothered by anything,I am always completely "Christlike" no matter what happens.(An advanced "Conscious-person" could even have his body tortured and not even still be bothered about it.) Jukka

Kaf. Ha. Ya. Ayn. Sad. The distance between the different levels of Paradise is five hundred thousand light-years. The highest level is called Firdaws, this is where the prophets of Allah like Jesus Son of Mary and Moses are going. This is also where The_ATA0 is not going.

Say: He is Allah, the One and Only Allah, the Eternal, Absolute He begets not, nor is he begotten And there is none like unto him. 31. They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah. There is no god but he. Praise and glory to him: (Far is he) from having the partners they associate (with him). 32. Fain would they extinguish Allah's light with their mouths, but Allah will not allow but that his light should be perfected, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it). 33. It is he who hath sent his messenger with guidance and the Religion of Truth, to proclaim it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it). At-Tawba 9:31-33

OH BOY, A HEATED CIRCULAR ARGUMENT IS ABOUT TO BREAK OUT! Prediction: ATA0 is going to say that Jesus is the one and only truth because the bible says so, and the bible was written by god, so it must be true. Jaguar is going to say that Allah is the one and only god because the Q'uran said so, and the Q'uran was narrated to Muhammed by god. Idiocy ensues.

You have to admit that ATA is less tedious when I counter his tediousness with more tediousness in the opposite direction

yes, maybe the way to get him to shut up is to get all preachy and self-righteous with him. then maybe he'll learn how fucking annoying it is.

O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and his word which he bestowed on Mary and a spirit proceeding from him: so believe in Allah and his apostles. Say not "Trinity" - desist - it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah. Glory be to him: (far exalted is he) above having a son. To him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs. An-Nisa 4:171 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_u_ZCpXoho

jaguar are you Cristal White?

Yea

Is that a picture of you? And what do you think about my private message I sent to you?

The kuran and the gospels are both inventions by Reptilians. Or you really believe a lot of virgins girls are waiting you in the afterlife? ahahahahah Or that if someone hits you you have to forgive him 77 times 7?? ahahahahaahah

If a bracelet of a woman of Paradise is revealed, it will wipe out the brightness of the Sun as the Sun wipes out the brightness of the stars.