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kamebazooka- 11-04-2007
TO FRANCO FIORI AND ALEXANDRA MEYERS. DO THE RINGS WORK. ??
The rings may work for you but they clearly do not work for everyone. Maybe for some people, eating chocolate or wine is more effective than rings or GP. When Alex claims the rings work, that means they must work for everyone, not just Alex and ring-sensitive people. If he has guts to stand behind it, he must submit them to independent testing. I believe when you say the rings work for you, but when you imply they work for everyone, then that is a fraud unless you can prove this.

amayers- 11-23-2007
well then I suppose Tylenol is a fraud too
nothing works for EVERYONE, which is too bad, but that doesn't make something that doesn't work for everyone a fraud. Tylenol is a pain reliever BUT it might not work for EVERYONE. Does that make the product Tylenol a fraud? Think about it.

v71- 11-23-2007

Rings works for anybody , for a limited amount of time, maybe 5-6 years i have experienced a strong rejuvenation( sp) effect , the very first night i put the rings on. In time, the magnetic density field to keep up with aging increases, until it is needed a stronger amount of magnetic flux, we don't have enogh strong magnets yet to cope with that. This is a theory of mine. The reason why people thinks its a scam is because we have different bodies, and they differ in response to the enhanced magnetic flux. Our bodies naturally make this energy flow into meridians, the rings , enhance the flux with magnets , most people don't feel anything and this is quite common, but rings do work, , for everyone , i have a total of 6 rings for each hand, and i don't feel difference from having only 2 , bu i know i have increase the flux. flux and density are different concepts, a ferrite magnet has a fixed density , if you put one ferrite over the other, the desnity is still the same. you can't add magnet to increase power, you increase flux, but not density. That's why nidb magnets are stronger than ferrite. i have stated many times, that rings rejuvenated me in just one night. I think i am a special case, because before putting rings i had a quick aging due to a strong depressive state, in which i could feel eneergy escaping from my body trhough hands. I have experienced also shadow like entities trying to collect this leaking energy around me. I don't care if you believe it or not, but aliens are here since a long time and they watch us like we watch fishes in a fishbowl.

frank2008- 11-23-2007

I am the only one who thinks v71 is mad and so his opinions about the rings don't count?

shefe- 11-23-2007

V71, I think we can relate with one another. What is the percentage of magnetism in an human average body like alex chiu for example.. Those are astral beings Amayers, There have been no test done physically done with the ring but tylenol was tested on human and there was results present in the body or atleast traces of what it does.. alex chiu has refused to acquire equipment to further test his ring

kamebazooka- 11-23-2007
Re: well then I suppose Tylenol is a fraud too
nothing works for EVERYONE, which is too bad, but that doesn't make something that doesn't work for everyone a fraud. Tylenol is a pain reliever BUT it might not work for EVERYONE. Does that make the product Tylenol a fraud? Think about it. If Tylenol doesn't work for everyone, then Tylenol must say which people it doesn't work for. They must also say which people it could be harmful to. Otherwise you can sue Tylenol, and I bet they were sued until they put proper warnings and precautions. Also, Tylenol and other drugs must be subjected to rigorous tests before they are allowed to be sold. Does Alex do this? Before he says he cannot afford to do it, but now he certainly has enough money to make at least some good test.

v71- 11-23-2007

There aren't formulas to compute how much flux enters trhough chackra. We can measure magentism in any metal alloy , measuring its intrinsic magentic domains, those are region of the crystal lattice oriented toward the same direction, this is magnetism , all matter is slighltly magentized. Those aren't opinions, this is science. I know what i am talking about becasue i am an engeneer and not some new age folk. Magnetism is chi, and this is a fact , no doubt about it , madifying the flux entering and coming out explains , among other things, the chi kung pratice. I think that positioning big magnets in other charckra positions might lead to other type of changes. I am about to buy 2 fucking huge nidb magnets to experiment with. they are discs of 20cm of diameter. I plan to put beetween each chackra

shefe- 11-23-2007

V71, Are you familiar with the ethereal body which is the battery of our physical body?

v71- 11-24-2007

I am trying to understand the relation beetween physical and etehrical body and how they interact, i have few experiences , like telekinesys and body changes, but they require a lot, lot of energy located in the belly chackra , it is difficult and takes time , at least for me to accumulate this energy. Shefe , i have ready some posts of yours , i think you have much more experience than me in this fields. You wrote that to rejuevenate body needs electrons. In particular about electrons recharging cells to enhance rejuvenation. Incidentally ( serendipity ??) a few days ago , during my research, i have read a document about an old man, who was struck by a lighting and he grew back his theeth. Another document talks about ormes and who was doing experiments, drank a lot of magnetized water, this made his hair turn black again in a period of many months, drinking each day this special water. This connects the dots about prana and magnetism I think that pulsing a dc current in the cells , might be the key. A pulsing current creates a magnetic field. Accademic physics says that a current creates a magentic fields, then they debate about energy can't be created. I think that prana or chi is made of magnetic particels, that already are present in space, a current loop, wich is made of electrons chasing togheter, acts as a vortex , which channles this particels into an oriented movement, just like a water vortex or a tornado.

shefe- 11-24-2007

V71, Start reading the bible and you will begin to see answers.. those bodies exist, the one you should start researching on is the ethereal body. The Alex Chiu ring has the headlight but it is missing the bulb. The thing with ormes was decoded when moses gave his people gold to drink during the worship of Golden calf . Also read on Elisha using his magnetic staff to bring people back from the dead. Pay attention to the secret , the child sneezed 7 times. In other words, the CHAKRA System was activated/opened again

v71- 11-25-2007

Well i think that magnetic devies aren't enough, Elisha might have a strongly developed chackra system, and the device only channelled this force into a 'dead' body. A dead body is completely dead after 5 hours, so to 'raise' from the grave needs to be a quick operation. I saw a russian video where a chi practioner reactivated the nervos system of a fresh dead man.

ivan4iai- 11-25-2007

Hey shefe, can you perform some kind of paranormal activity such as telekinesis? If so, did you learn it before or after you started studying Yoruba? PS: has anyone here ever tried astral projection drugs?

v71- 11-25-2007

I can astral travel automatically as soon as i lay down on a bed, i have the problem to fall asleep at night before i project out , which is an uncontrollable experience for me. I wouldn't reccomend to use drugs or psychotropics.

jc- 11-25-2007

V71, can you explain your ASTRAL TRAVEL experience ? where do you go ? What do you see ?

shefe- 11-26-2007

V71, yes, it was more of his body , you are right. I dont perform telekinesis and so on, it requires years of practice and alignment with u energy body...