This is all so amusing, hey remember when ATA1 posted the picture of the pig with the stick up its ass that went all the way through its mouth? One comment I remember clearly was "Holy shit thats a huge pimple, appearently they dont know how to pop them down there" He was reffering the the huge mole on the ugly old ladies left cheek. I remember this all clearly now, especially the one where ATA1 posted the pic of the two guys fisting eachother.. yeah that.. wasnt too fun. He did post ONE good pic out of the 100s. It was a hentai tease pic. To anyone who might remember me, My SN was "Giant Letter A" I just forgot my pass.. so..... yeah its not like the 12 post I made with that thing actually matter. Oh and is that "Action girl" thread still around?

Hey ATA1.. I wanted to refrain from doing this but..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVuw1wEuaAQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk6ILZAaAMI&mode http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkXOwBIRX7Y&mode# I didnt want to have to share these because alot of people are being proven wrong by this and find there entire way of life and all there beliefs in shambles. But, your just so much of a hypocritical jackass that you deserve that. Anyone else who is a christian and does not want to find the horrible truth behind there religion.. please refrain from watching these.

They arn't true.

Dear ATA1, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjYJ7zZ9BRw Sincerely, Immortality Device Users Forum

I have seen all of those youtube things before. My faith is strong, the bible proves the Christian faith is correct. I have tried to disprove the bible to myself but it is impossible, only the weak minded or luke warm christians will fall that nonsense. Even evolutionists can not answer simple questions to backup their arguments. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaKryi3605g The Christian faith is the correct faith, I highly recommend everyone here to become Christian also. Your father in heaven is waiting for you to acknowledge him, understand that he created the universe and you and do not continue to insult God by thinking that everything evolved, thats is the greatest insult and shows your ignorance and incompetence. It's like saying to your biological father, your father tells you not to do something and you say, You are not my father, I evolved from animals I will do what I want, your father will say that is not true, if you do not follow his advise you well self destruct. Children who disobey good loving parents end up worse for it. Believe me, god is real and mocking god or people who believe in him, or encourge people to follow other gods who did not create them will also fall apond his judgement. You have all been warned but you are like fatted cattle, yes satan has been feeding you well, but we all know what happens to fatted cattle, they are slaughtered, and with you, satan is your slaughter, he will fatten you up with sin and then butcher and kill you and consume you in torment for all eternity. 1Pe 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

Evolutionists don't have to back up anything, because you have not presented any rival scientific theory. All you have is supernatural Santa Claus stuff from kindergarten Any moron can say "A magical giraffe created the Sun, case closed" but it takes more than that to propose a genuine scientific theory

No the bible proves creation, it details how god created the heavens and the earth. Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep: and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. Gen 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night: and the evening and the morning were the first day. Gen 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. Gen 1:7 And God made the firmament; and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. Gen 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven: and the evening and the morning were the second day. Gen 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered into one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so. Gen 1:10 And God called the dry land Earth, and the collection of waters he called Seas: and God saw that it was good. Gen 1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit-tree yielding fruit after its kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so. Gen 1:12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after its kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after its kind: and God saw that it was good. Gen 1:13 And the evening and the morning were the third day. Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven, to divide the day from the night: and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years. Gen 1:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven, to give light upon the earth: and it was so. Gen 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. Gen 1:17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven, to give light upon the earth. Gen 1:18 And to rule over the day, and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. Gen 1:19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day. Gen 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. Gen 1:22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. Gen 1:23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day. Gen 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and the creeping animal, and the beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. Gen 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every animal that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping animal that creepeth upon the earth. Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said to them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living animal that moveth upon the earth. Gen 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for food. Gen 1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every animal that creepeth upon the earth, in which is life, I have given every green herb for food: and it was so. Gen 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. That details how the earth and everything on it was created, that is much more plausible than a big bang & life forming itself in mud and evolving to where we are today. If evolution is true, then we would be hearing radio noise from other civilizations which have also evolved in the universe, there is many trillions of solar systems out there and I tell you it is highly improbable that we are the first ones to be transmitting radio. SETI was built apon this premise and the project has been a failure, they have found nothing and is great evidence that we are alone in the universe, it also evidences the biblical creation also for those who still want to believe that there is other life in the universe, the universe was only created 6,000 years ago, therefore those civilizations radio waves would not have reached us yet.

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& life forming itself in mud and evolving to where we are today. Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground I think that to sit back and say that creationism and evolution completely contradict each other is to lose sight of the possibility that there may be a gray area. No doubt whether coerced by a divine intelligence or not, one could easily view man's transition from being dust into being a man as 'evolutionary'. In Kabbalah, and in Gnosis, the view is that the book of Genesis is highly mythological, having descended from the tablets of Sumeria, Mesopotamia which have nearly identical accounts of the creation story found in Genesis. Adam Kadmon as he is referred to in the Kabbalist tradition represents not a single man, but man as a collective group. The tree of life in the midst of the garden is symbolic as well as I have referred to before, the snake, the rib made into Eve, the apple, the animal skins etc. To put this in context with the rest of the bible is fairly simple, while slightly more historical and less mythological/kabbalistic, it retains a complete mythological context. We know Jesus Christ was a man, his body is claimed to be associative with either bread, or the sum of his followers (i.e. we are the body of christ, the church). We know the tree of life, as it was written has 12 fruits which coincide with every month as I pointed out before, which can only mean they represent the whole of the zodiac, the zodiac's fruits pertain to each month of the calendar. So while Jesus Christ may have been an individual, we recognize he is also the sum of the church as a whole, who constitute his entirety. In some circles of christianity he is even called: 'the new Adam', likewise Mary is referred to as: 'the new Eve'. The tree of life, likewise which Adam and Eve ate from no doubt is representative in meaning. To eat from the tree of knowledge, or the tree of life, as indicated by Genesis 4:1 is insinuative of the sexual act, because the word: 'knew' is inferrenced as the word of action. I copied these from the gnostic glossary: Adam and Eve A symbol with many levels of meaning. Physically, it refers to an ancient humanity. "Do not forget that Adam is not one man, neither is Eve one woman. Indeed, Adam is all of the millions of men of Lemuria, and Eve is all of the millions of women of Lemuria." - The Revolution of Beelzebub Adam and Eve also symbolize the two canals that entwine around the spinal column. Adam Kadmon (Hebrew) This term has many applications, including the first manifestation of the Abstract Space; The Archetypal Man; Humanity; The Heavenly Man, not fallen into sin. “The body of Adam Kadmon is formed by the Sephiroth." - Tarot and Kabbalah, ch. XXXII

ATA1, I hope you recognize that the human body is made of atoms, and therefore the first homo sapiens had to be created from those building blocks. Evolutionists claim that there was an intermediate stage: atoms formed simple life forms first, and it gradually became more complicated And creationists are saying that complex life arose suddenly: atoms simply jumped to form complete humans. Isn't it pretty obvious that the creationist version of events makes less sense? The scientists say that life developed gradually over 4.54 billion years; and you say that it developed suddenly, 6 thousand years ago. Since creationist geniuses often ask if we have ever witnessed an ape turning into a human, I will ask you if you have ever seen a new human spontaneously appear

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The account given by Samael Aun Weor (if I'm remembering this correctly), which coincides with the teachings of Hopi Indians, and the Hindus/Buddhists, is that life evolved within the more subtle dimensions of nature, as did the earth (the etheric, astral, causal planes, etc.). Physically, man materialized fully formed from his evolution within the subtle dimensions of nature, as did the earth's creatures. This is why it would appear that creatures evolve because they give characteristics of having predacessors, but that evidence of this isn't verifyable (such as the infamous missing link between man and the ape). Basicly, a factor unseen and untraceable is that which is from the other dimensions. It is cited that since in the book of Genesis, Eve was contained in the rib of Adam, that this is mythological evidence to suggest that at one point in time, man was collectively a race of hermaphrodites, which seperated into seperate sexes. The fact that hermaphrodites exist among animals, and sometimes people is enough to verify the possibility of such a statement. When we look at the 6-day creation, one wonders how long a "day" constitutes. It is suggested by the Fundamentalists that a day with the lord as a thousand years. So how long is a year? Could it be that the 6 days of creation span thousands of years, and represent the differing stages of evolution of the earth within the different spiritual dimensions unseeable by the physical sight? As another point of interest concerning the bible as being kabbalist/mythological, is this passage in the book of Job: Job 39 Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib? Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee? Wilt thou trust him, because his strength is great? or wilt thou leave thy labour to him? Wilt thou believe him, that he will bring home thy seed, and gather it into thy barn?

I gave you a chance for me to be nice to you ATA, why are you not answering ?

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I will not deny, alot of paradigms and idiosyncracies taught in religious texts, and especially ones in the material I now treasure: the prophet SAW can seem very far fetched at times. But personally speaking the more I study, the more I apply myself to understanding, the more evidence I have gathered to pursue the faith. Let me give a few examples I know of offhand: In the master's books, as I have read (circa 1950's - 70's) he seems to have accurately articulated the antithetical charge of antimatter particles to that of normal matter, long before science began manufacturing it in Fermi-Lab (there was a documentary about this recently on the History channel). This isn't to say that such theories weren't already being presented on shows like Star Trek, but the fact Samael asserted it as a fact, and that today it is a known reality strikes me that the man (among other reasons) isn't spouting rubble. I remember when I was a teenager, my mother's (now late) boyfriend told me tidbits about his work in the DoD while he was drunk. (he didn't say anything which hasn't been by now declassified) One of the things he told me is how at work he witnessed scientists working on a way to create antimatter in a laboratory, and they succeeded, but the antimatter particle would only last a fraction of a milisecond because it immediately comes in contact with any "matter" around it, so you basicly would need to suspend it alone in a controlled environment where it wouldn't be able to touch any kind of particle whatsoever. I recognized at the time that this information should be a complete secret, so I shut my mouth until now as I see this kind of stuff being paraded on national television. Another one of the master's claims is that there is life on other planets, and mars in particular, but that science ignores this and is set offcourse by interference from alien intelligences who manipulate our science. (which if you've watched the History channel for any length of time, you recognize there are alot of accounts of ex-military personnel and civilians who witness things of this nature and become sworn to silence.) When I first read about that, I was outraged and thought this man is spouting a bunch of hooey, but when confronted with the fact that I witnessed on TV for myself a gap in the transmission between NASA and their own equipment they've shuttled into space for hours at a time before mysteriously regaining transmission, I knew at that point the idea should at least be given the benefit of the doubt. Whether or not the life in question exists in the physical dimension or not. Lets look at what he says about the Mayans and Aztecs, how sacrifice of the hearts of virgins was really a horrible degenerative outcome of a religion whose tradition at one time represented the sacrifice of defects within the heart of a person who was dedicated to 'virginity', which is to say they were practicing chastity (alchemy, kundalini yoga)... There are some fascinating reads here, and I suppose that before people continue bashing Fundamentalist views, and Christianity as a whole, one really needs to dig into these things and discover there is something far beyond the confusing, mundane, or even seemingably dillusional believing without question as many in the different faiths do. As I stated before, there was a disciple of Jesus, named St. Thomas, who refused not to question, so to consider thoughtful and articulate inquiry before passing judgement and ridicule might be a wiser option.