The Blasphemous Fundy CrusadeThe results of the unconscionable misunderstanding of esoteric scripture:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/11/22/11541/779
Some people earnestly believe that the evangelicals who go over as missionaries to help feed the sick, use that money wisely.
I would not give a fundamentalist my funds, but if I wanted to help the poor or hungry in Africa, I would give to an organization I feel isn't steeped in the crusades or biases of religious fundamentalism.
I will say now Vehcklox that you have been totally deceived.
What is said about Christians over in Iraq is a blatant lie, I am Christian and I think what the US is doing over there is good, I am pro Jews and Israel and he claims these Christians are anti semitic. If a Christian is Antisemitic then he isn't really christian, the Jews are gods chosen people and I love them.
Vehcklox you have a lack of discernment which many people do nowadays. I pray you become christian again.
Look at one of the editors, I think I've said enough.
the Jews are gods chosen people and I love them.
Enough with this ignorance!
Do you have any idea what love means?
How can you not realise how FAKE your love is?
And what the hell is so wrong with how that man looks? Ever heard of the term Don't judge a book by its cover??
Yes I know about Mr. Hagee, he is most likely an antichrist as he claims that Jesus was not really the messiah, he ain't christian even if he says he is.
I've also seen videos on winamp tv which show religious camps for kids which promote militarism to defend fundamentalist Christianity...
Most likely the clips you saw was from "Jesus camp" it's a movie about a camp for christian children which was affiliated the church that Haggard was pastor, you know the one who sniffed crack and slept with men prostitutes. Well the bible says you'll know a person by weather they bear good or bad fruit, well that was alot of bad fruit, not all of them, but bad fruit non the less.
It's very sad, complete ignorance of the kabbalah
The Kabbalah is a jewish esoteric practice which has no place in christianity.
Mat 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
The Kabbalah is mostly what Mat 6:7 refers against not to do. Jews practicing the Kabbalah recite mantras and repetition of sentences.
But this kind of arrogance is nothing new, hence why the Jews were exiled to begin with, and why now they've formed an illigitimate state without the approval of the almighty. Yet there are still some devout Jews who have not disobeyed the Lord most high:
What do you mean? The bible says Israel will become the Jews again, it is not an illegitimate state without the approval of the almighty, it is legitimate and does have the approval of god.
Jer 3:17-3:18 At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the LORD; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the LORD, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart. In those days the house of Judah shall walk with the house of Israel, and they shall come together out of the land of the north to the land that I have given for an inheritance unto your fathers.
Jer 16:15 But, The LORD liveth, that brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north, and from all the lands whither he had driven them: and I will bring them again into their land that I gave unto their fathers.
Clearly the bible says that god will give the Jews Israel back and that happened after world war 2. Now all the Jews have to do is believe in Jesus as their Messiah.
Vehcklox none of the points you have tried to use to discredit Christians hold any water.
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The Kabbalah is mostly what Mat 6:7 refers against not to do. Jews practicing the Kabbalah recite mantras and repetition of sentences.
Huge difference between a prayer (petition) and a mantra (utilization of sound to affect the spiritual bodies).
Matthew 6:7
But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
Mantras are not pronounced with the intention of being heard (whereas a petition: a "prayer" would), the intent of a mantra is most often related to the 7 esoteric "vowels" (IAOUMS), related to the 7 churches of the book of Revelation (an exoteric clue to an esoteric paradigm of a person's spiritual body). The churches are said to be in Asia (an intentional literary cover for the Kabbalist realm of Assiah)
What do you mean? The bible says Israel will become the Jews again, it is not an illegitimate state without the approval of the almighty, it is legitimate and does have the approval of god.
Israel and Jerusalem, they are not just pieces of land which can be geographically mapped, they are also and more importantly so: analogous to the heavenly Jerusalem, the heavenly Israel which is not a land in the physical plane. The referrence to the land which the Jews occupied only served it's importance inasmuch as it could be used as a metaphor for the realm of heaven.
You have quoted and said: the bible says Israel will become the Jews.
Israel is a compound word, which takes it's etimology from it's predacessor, the old religion of Egypt. Isis-Ra-El, the union of Isis and Ra. I even watch the History channel talking about how in the slave days of Egypt, the God of the Hebrews was referred to as "El", and this was carved on stone. It is not simply a name, but like all Hebrew names it has an esoteric meaning, not unlike Jesus's name: Yeshuah - Savior.
So then, who does Jesus say the Jews are?
Matthew 3:9
"And do not think you can say to yourselves, 'We have Abraham as our father.' I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham."
The "Jew" isn't just someone who is of the bloodline, the physical indicator that you've descended from Abraham, but anyone who esotericly is born from the baptism, this is a real Jew. So those Islamics, if their religion is intact they indeed could be considered "real Jews" even possibly moreso than the people of the bloodline who formed the so-called contemporary: "nation of Israel". I've seen on TV, people can become Jews because they adopt Judaism. Likewise, that land they are fighting over, isn't the nation of Israel inasmuch as we know the Jews have many times been exiled from that place and returned but yet they (the people) have still been referred to as 'the nation of Israel'. Therefore as well, the nation of Israel could be a people out in the middle of the Amazon with pigmy huts and strange masks, if that is, they follow the path to become a member of the congregation of the Lord (the heavenly Jerusalem in the superior dimensions of nature, the astral plane and beyond).
1 Thessalonians 2:14-15: For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews: Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men.
Christians are God's chosen people. The Jews were, but they messed up too many times and killed their Messiah and still hate him to this day. Jews hate and have no respect for Jesus. As a Christian, persecuting Jews is bad, ie, beating up Jews for being Jewish or something. However, I dont see why Jews are somehow more sacred to Christians than other religions. I think much of the reason why Christians like the Jews so much is because by supporting Israel, they're helping to fulfill prophecy and bring about the apocolypse.
the Jews are gods chosen people and I love them.
I'm a Jew, and since you love me so much, cease your online message board crusade. Let people follow their own beliefs and practices.
לך תזדיין, כוס אמא שלך
That means "Fuck off, you stupid cunt" (or asshole... its open to interpretation).
