Special Prediction Thread:When wil SacJB get his money back?

Special Prediction Thread:When wil SacJB get his money back?
This is a special prediction thread -- special because unlike most predictions, SacJB can control the outcome. Many of you already predicted SacJB will never get his money back. Do you guys stick with that? It seems every day SacJB posts he is closer to his goal, but I must agree. As long as he keeps trying to jump through their hoops, they'll keep making new ones. At any time SacJB can prove us wrong by starting his credit card dispute. He has a much better chance of getting his money this way. SacJB if you get your money back (cash in your hands) before August 1, I will donate $50 to a food bank.

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I have decided to take 2 weeks off and think things over. I'm going to talk with you guys, my family, etc...

Taking two weeks off of going to the church? Please don't wait to long. As the longer you wait the less likely you will ever see your money again.

Unless he goes through his credit card company, I don't foresee him getting his money back. I see him falling back into their trap. I hope he doesn't, but when he becomes extremely poor and miserable, I won't feel sorry for him. We've all tried to warn him.

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well, i am just thinking 800 is alot of money but it's not everything. I sell alex's rings, I do pretty well. But I don't want to have any regrets like losing sarah and obri over there. So I am going to take time to think about it. Cuz once your out your out.

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Cuz once your out your out. And that's a good thing. Why would you want to ruin your life so you can keep seeing two girls that go? Cuz that's what you would be doing. If you stay in, you will be paying MUCH more than $800 a pop. The longer you go, the more money they suck out of you. They will try to manipulate you and control you. They are already trying to get you to stop having contact with Alex, just because he's not with them anymore. You will end up losing contact with everybody that's not in the church. Do you really want that? Do you really want to lose contact with all your family and friends? That's what will happen. You have to be off your rocker if you want to stay with them.

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actually alex never was in scientology, he just came to the events. One of the ladies there said to ditch him and run for my life and disconnect with alex. she said he was an SP because i was coming off the meds and i asked if it's ok to take gorgeouspil. She said that he is trying to sell me street drugs and that he himself used to take drugs. She immediately called Lyle and said Alex is causing me to ''rollercoaster.'' And also there is Karl. Karl told me he is an SP or something because the man is antisocial and insane. He explained that Alex's theories are a person that is a PTS, a potential trouble source. He said Alex is an SP because he is an insane person but at the church they don't have an asyllum for him. But he said the only way alex can get well is to audit.

The point is, they're still trying to control who you have as friends.

yes, they always do that. They try to cut all social contacts and interests of a person apart from their "church", so that they can enslave that person and eventuallly steal all his/her money. They make a man into a cast-away idiot and then enslave him.

I hate to say it, but I agree with Frank on this one.

Please listen to these guys, You are again paying money to look and talk to a girl. You make money selling Alex products. Are they going to stop you from doing that? Most likely not because that way you have money to give them. Alex is selling street drugs to you? Herbs are now street drugs, really what drugs are they on. Alex may be a little out there, Okay way out there sometimes, But drugs, I don't think so. And it seems to help a lot of people.

will they stop sacjb from selling alex products? I think this depends on who he tells. I suspect someone high enough in the church will recognize alex as a brother scammer, and give respect. But most people sacjb deals with seem to be low-level people. They will just denounce alex and force sacjb to quit selling, even if that's the source of their money that they took from him. if you defend alex products because it seems to help people, then you must also defend scientology. after all, sacjb got off drugs after he started, right? in this respect, you must admit scientology is superior to alex products. they helped sacjb where alex couldn't. sacjb it's good you take two weeks not to talk to them. But I suggest after that you do not go back at all, even to try and get your money, because they will just give you more runarounds. sacjb. on monday, if you call your credit card company and get the dispute process in motion, I will donate $50 to a local food bank.

Well the thing is that he is not going to stop contact with Alex. And if he continues in Scientology then they will force him to cut off contact with Alex. So we know what is going to happen. He is going to get out of scientology. So basically this is what will happen. But he could end up leaving Alex all together. So he will have to make a choice. Alex or scientology. That is the accurate bottom line.

They might of helped him get off drugs. But how did they do it? I really don't know much about Scientology or their tactics. I know that there are many different ways and groups that could help get people off drugs, but it really all comes down to that SacJB wanted to get off drugs, otherwise it never would of happened no matter what

sacjb it is monday. did you start the credit card process? if they realize they can't get more money out of you, you will be SP. if they know you are still selling alex products, you will be SP. if they know you are still associating with alex, you will be SP. people here disagree on many things, but i don't think anyone here disagrees about this. there is no special knowledge involved. this is all based on what you yourself told us.

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