SACJB please read!

SACJB please read!
Sacjb, I have been trolling this forum for quite sometime, but I feel it is time for me to speak. A while ago you posted you had some trouble with Scientology. LOBSANG told you of two groups Anonymous and also Freezone. I realize you may have already made your decision, but I feel I must still caution you! The two groups are VERY different. Anonymous is an internet hate machine created in the depths of hell of a website called 4chan.org. They come from a forum called /b/ (http://img.4chan.org/b/imgboard.html). They can be a dangerous group and should be avoided unless you know what you are doing. Freezone is harmless and negotiates peacefully. I frequently go to 4chan and know many people there. This is a link to the origins of the "anons". http://4chanarchive.org/brchive/dspl_thread.php5?thread_id=51051816. While some of this sounds like a joke, I want to stress that the decision of joining one group over the other has SERIOUS consequences. Thank you for reading my message of caution. This message also is for any one who is curious. Your friend, ANON (PS links maybe adult. I have no control over the hate machine and my brothers can get out of hand)

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do you know anything about scientology benefits over freezone?

Well I never encouraged SacJB to join anonymous. Far from it. I did recommend that he talk to the Freezone. And I really do not think Anonymous is against Scientology. They are against the COS. There is a difference. Anonymous has no problem with Freezone. SacJB knows really nothing of Scientology so he would have no reason to get involved with Anonymous. Unless of course is aspired for some strange reason to be an SP. But I do not think he wants that.

While some of this sounds like a joke, I want to stress that the decision of joining one group over the other has SERIOUS consequences. Well if you are for real then why don't you tell him what the SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES may be? Let us hear it please.

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Sacjb, Anonymous is an internet hate machine created in the depths of hell of a website called 4chan.org. They come from a forum called /b/ (http://img.4chan.org/b/imgboard.html). They can be a dangerous group and should be avoided unless you know what you are doing. The division of Anonymous that combats Scientology is Chanology. And they are certainly not an internet hate machine. /b/ also has very little to do with Chanology. I hear they dont like them much. Why are you lying? You claim to be a part of Anonymous and then encourage someone to go to the freezone over Anonymous? The Freezone is no friend of Anonymous. If they had the power the official COS did they would likely be doing the same horrible things. Could you please tell us about the consequences of joining Anonymous that you spoke of?

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Well I never encouraged SacJB to join anonymous. Far from it. I did recommend that he talk to the Freezone. And I really do not think Anonymous is against Scientology. They are against the COS. There is a difference. Anonymous has no problem with Freezone. SacJB knows really nothing of Scientology so he would have no reason to get involved with Anonymous. Unless of course is aspired for some strange reason to be an SP. But I do not think he wants that. I didn't mean to make it sound like I was putting words in your mouth. Since most of your posts are destroyed saying SP now it is hard to see what you told SacJB. You must have mentioned Anonymous since he mentions it. I meant that the groups are against the church not necessarily the ideas, thank you for pointing that out. It is true that there is no contention between Anons and FZ, but they are still very different. I really have no idea what SacJB really knows so I must assume a bit. I also agree that Sac should not become an SP. While some of this sounds like a joke, I want to stress that the decision of joining one group over the other has SERIOUS consequences. Well if you are for real then why don't you tell him what the SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES may be? Let us hear it please. LOL, that part I really was just messing around on. The only difference between the groups is that one can be more... how should I say it, "outspoken" (anons). So if you join the legion be prepared to be arrested.

Sacjb, Anonymous is an internet hate machine created in the depths of hell of a website called 4chan.org. They come from a forum called /b/ (http://img.4chan.org/b/imgboard.html). They can be a dangerous group and should be avoided unless you know what you are doing. The division of Anonymous that combats Scientology is Chanology. And they are certainly not an internet hate machine. /b/ also has very little to do with Chanology. I hear they dont like them much. Why are you lying? You claim to be a part of Anonymous and then encourage someone to go to the freezone over Anonymous? The Freezone is no friend of Anonymous. If they had the power the official COS did they would likely be doing the same horrible things. Could you please tell us about the consequences of joining Anonymous that you spoke of? You are correct about Chanology, but I do believe they are very much so a hate machine. They stem from /b/, I even posted the conversation that went on that began the Chanology group. It is the second link. I am most certainly not lying. I want people to think about what they do before they make a decision. Anonymous is not for everyone. There is lots of protesting and RAIDING that goes on. Most of it I will admit is very childish, but some people deserve it. The two groups are not friends, but they aren't totally enemies either. They just have different ways of showing their ideas. Once again I do not support freezone. I think what they are doing is great, but I would not join them. Once again the consequences are meant as a joke. The deciding factors are: 1) do you want to protest the church. or 2) do you want to still participate in the beliefs of the church.

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do you know anything about scientology benefits over freezone? I don't see a big difference between FreeZone and Scientology. I think that if you are getting what you need from the church, then please by all means keep going. However if you are not getting what you need then you should stop. If you don't believe in the Hubbard doctorine than you should not go to FreeZone or stay with the church. I think the benefit of Freezone is that most, if not all, of the resouces are free. L Ron Hubbard said that his work must be kept free, but the CoS didn't do that. FreeZone came along and made a lot of the stuff free. I suggest you research as much as you can about the CoS and find what is right for you. I must caution you though to have a bit of skepticism with everything you read.

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The only difference between the groups is that one can be more... how should I say it, "outspoken" (anons). So if you join the legion be prepared to be arrested. Are you a scientologist or just trolling? If you dont do anything illegal you arent going to get arrested. Many raids and large scale protests have happened with little to no problems. Where are these mass arrests that you are hinting at? You are correct about Chanology, but I do believe they are very much so a hate machine. They stem from /b/, I even posted the conversation that went on that began the Chanology group. It is the second link. Everyone who has read anything about Chanology knows they arent a hate machine. I dont care how it started. Its not about /b/ anymore. Anyone uninformed and reading this please do your own research and dont believe this guy. I want people to think about what they do before they make a decision. Anonymous is not for everyone. There is lots of protesting and RAIDING that goes on. Why did you capitalize raiding? As if its some horrible activity we are supposed to cower and gasp at the thought of.

The operational question is how you found this website and our converstation about Scientology. And why if you have been following it you decide to say something now. Now I know that you are not in Anonymous because you would never tell SacJB to continue in the church if he was satisfied. And I do not understand why you would think he was choosing between the two groups. The two groups have totally different agendas. And SacJB is a PTS right now. So the question is how did you find us? Now we know the COS has been monitoring the forum. So one strong possibility is that you are from the COS. But then you don't knock Freezone so I am confused. You might just be a troll babbling. But how did you find us? I have tried to help him but I will not be around anymore. So I hope he does OK.

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you are commiting suicide?

The only difference between the groups is that one can be more... how should I say it, "outspoken" (anons). So if you join the legion be prepared to be arrested. Are you a scientologist or just trolling? If you dont do anything illegal you arent going to get arrested. Many raids and large scale protests have happened with little to no problems. Where are these mass arrests that you are hinting at? You are correct about Chanology, but I do believe they are very much so a hate machine. They stem from /b/, I even posted the conversation that went on that began the Chanology group. It is the second link. Everyone who has read anything about Chanology knows they arent a hate machine. I dont care how it started. Its not about /b/ anymore. Anyone uninformed and reading this please do your own research and dont believe this guy. I want people to think about what they do before they make a decision. Anonymous is not for everyone. There is lots of protesting and RAIDING that goes on. Why did you capitalize raiding? As if its some horrible activity we are supposed to cower and gasp at the thought of. I'm neither apart of Scientology nor a troll. All I am doing is expressing my opinions on the matter. I'm not saying you get arrested at each protest, but I have been to a few rallies that have resulted in police intervention. they are a hate machine this was the offical declaration of war on the church posted on /i/: The Formal Declaration of War “ RESOLUTION Declaring that a state of war exists between the "Church" of Scientology and the Internet and making provisions to prosecute the same. Whereas the "Church" of Scientology has committed unprovoked acts of war against the Internet and Society as a whole; and Whereas, such acts continue to pose an unusual and extraordinary threat to the security and freedom of the Internet and its users; and Whereas, such acts render it both necessary and appropriate that Anonymous exercise its rights to self-defense and to seek out lulz: Therefore be it Resolved by Anonymous in /i/ and /b/ assembled, That the state of war between the Anonymous and the "Church" of Scientology which has thus been thrust upon the Internet is hereby formally declared; and That Anonymous is hereby authorized and directed to employ the entire force of Anonymous and the resources of the Internet to prosecute war against the "Church" of Scientology; and To bring the conflict to a successful termination, all of the resources of Anonymous are hereby pledged. „ —/i/NSURGENCY ...And you say they aren't a hate machine. they are STILL /b/ and /i/ combined. They don't just stem from 4chan. They form the mass of the resistance. Why else would their most recent IRL raid be called OPERATION BATTLETOAD? Please by all means do your research people. Visit 4chan, go to encyclopedia dramatica, go to any related website and you will see what I'm saying. I only capitalized Raiding because I'm used to do it. I mean nothing by it. However websites related to the CoS should be wary: “ THIS IS MORE EPIC THAT ANYTHING I HAVE SEEN BEFORE....IF LEFT UNCHECKED THIS COULD UNDO THE VERY INTERNETS ITSELF, MANY ANONS MAY FALL BUT THEY WILL BE REMEMBERED „ — ANON Raiding can be dangerous especially for small sites because of DDoS attacks. They are very common and can cripple a website for days. The operational question is how you found this website and our converstation about Scientology. And why if you have been following it you decide to say something now. Now I know that you are not in Anonymous because you would never tell SacJB to continue in the church if he was satisfied. And I do not understand why you would think he was choosing between the two groups. The two groups have totally different agendas. And SacJB is a PTS right now. So the question is how did you find us? Now we know the COS has been monitoring the forum. So one strong possibility is that you are from the COS. But then you don't knock Freezone so I am confused. You might just be a troll babbling. But how did you find us? I have tried to help him but I will not be around anymore. So I hope he does OK. I am actually a member of anonymous albeit a VERY mild member. I like to sit and watch the train wreck on either side. I found this website from a friend. I found the conversation because I was lurking. I figured that Sac was choosing between the groups because he said so in a post. So what if he is a PTS. If he wants to say he takes the classes to get back in. If he wants to leave he can come under the cloak of the anons. I must admit I don't know what FZ has to offer in protection. Once again I must say I am not a member of the church nor am I a troll. I am just giving my honest opinion of what I have seen happen. I'm sure he will do fine and I'm sure he thanks you for all the info you have given him.

So what if he is a PTS. If he wants to say he takes the classes to get back in. If he wants to leave he can come under the cloak of the anons. I must admit I don't know what FZ has to offer in protection. You keep making it out like hes going to be in big trouble if he leaves scientology. Why would he need anyones protection? As long as he isnt an outspoken and public critic then nothing bad is going to happen to him.

Well he would need protection if he joined anonymous since the only reason to join them is to speak out against the church. Like I have said though I don't know too much of FreeZone. I would imagine that the church might go after you just because you are getting the information for free. But who knows maybe you can join FZ without problems. Plus the church tried to go after people who used Scientology without their permission, so who knows what they would try to do.

Well he would need protection if he joined anonymous since the only reason to join them is to speak out against the church. There you go again trying to say its so dangerous to join anonymous. You dont need any protection to join anonymous.

Well he would need protection if he joined anonymous since the only reason to join them is to speak out against the church. There you go again trying to say its so dangerous to join anonymous. You dont need any protection to join anonymous. Yeah pretty much you do. The church considers it a terrorist group and will do anything to get rid of it. In the early days of the group people were held in jail because of claims of terrorism by the church. Since the authorities do nothing more than break up riots the church is left to there own means now. The church has resources that can bury you into the ground.

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