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Xiao Hu- 11-23-2007
Relationship Examples
I have many examples of relationship readings. Almost all of them were done by Gtslind. The problem with relationship questions is that usually there's no way of knowing how correct the reading was since whoever asked never bothered telling what happend. still there's a lot to learn from the way Gtslind answered :wink: Question:" where will I find my next girlfriend, how will I come in contact with her ? " Month: w, Day: yo-VIII, Empty: t & c Finish - 60 Break - 41 B t X K y - gry R sh O B t - - yel P s - - U R sh - - red R c - - R c - - grn K m - K m - blk G e - J G e - wht 6 Match Where is not easy but will give it a try.. U line is someting unkonown, Ps is strong under the date and the stem VIII, both metal. A future date y will strike P s to bound with the G Star on self line. U line will also reach the top line Ky There are several indiction of water : 1) Strong top line B t producing the pleasure star K y, is water. 2) The U gua is water and the self gua is lake (Dui) 3) U line s element + J line e element bound and become water. Water is produced beacause stem VIII is metal supporting the transformation. 4) Upper gua in the 2nd hex is Gen-III. III combine with date VIII to produce water again. So I think you can find her somewhere near the sea (a mountain island ) or on wooded mountain by some lakes during some outdoors trip! Question : "Is Anna the right girl for me? " Month: e, Day: y-VII, Empty: w & wa Chen - 1 Duay - 58 P sh O J P wa - - gry B s - B yo - yel R w - K h - red P cn O U P c - - grn G y - G m - blk K t - R e - wht 6 Strike 6 Strike You are very different from each other, you seems to have different points of veiws for nearlly all. Both P stars are retreating so you are maybe separating. Her menatlity (U line) is linked to an advancing B telling that she's really thinking to be alone. Yet you still have a strong possibility which can eliminate the double 6 strike. in a future date s when 2nd line moves to bound with self line. and when 4th line Rw (after w & wa came up) can move to link to a very strong advancing G star. G y will also move on date s so the slef line gets the direct connection with a storng and advancing G which is absolutely good. so many things depened on you the strong and empty red R tells a alot. Red R means you arguing to much. J and U fighting over P lines means that you two have many divergences on your agreements but your is gray, she's green. her opinoins are more reasonable and correct than yours. Question: "Will I marry this girl?" Month: cn, Day: e-VI, Empty: sh & h Strong - 34 Wonderful - 11 B sh - - K yo - - yel K s - - G h - - red P w O J B c - - grn B cn - B cn - blk R y - R y - wht G t - U G t - gry 6 Strike 6 Match The hexagram shows your friend intentions on regards to marriage. Strong P (marriage) moves to bound with Girl star U. But I don't think the answer is favourable. G star is too weak and moving P is striking her. She doesn't agree at first. B c bounding means she would feel suffocated, or controlled too much. G star is grey, she's a bit unconventional. Not a good idea at the moment, but 6 match still indicate a relationship (on a different basis) Question: "How do i get the girl i like? I have one in mind now...?" Month: cn, Day: y-V, Empty: s & yo Same - 13 Revolution - 49 K sh O U K wa - - red G s - G yo - grn B w - R h - blk R h - J R h - wht K c - - K c - - gry P m - P m - yel Stable Girl star is secretely moving to bound with month cn, this is an indication that she's moving away. You should ask her out on a day t and see her on day m Question: " The situation is this: I've completely fallen for a girl who initially showed great interest, but because of my foolish impatience, I may have scared her off with talk of love and all time. I need to know whether her recent refusal of my advances indicates a permanent separation between us, or whether there might possibly be a chance in the future, if I am patient, to rekindle the flame. " Year: s, Month: h, Day: yo-VI, Empty: y & m Trapped - 47 Unsettled - 64 P wa X R e - yel B yo O P wa - - red K h - U B yo - grn R w - - R w - - blk P cn - P cn - wht G y - - J G y - - gry 6 Match If the question is "Will I have the chance to love her again? " the answer is yes. But .. the problem here is that the Girl star, sitting on the self line, is empty. Yes, you will have the chance to love her again, but seems having to do more with you, rather than her. Are you sure you know her so much for your love? .. An empty appointed, sitting on the self line, means that what you have in mind about the appointed (the Girl star in this case) is still rather confused, being more a condition of the mind, than reality. This contains an advice for you. Btw, your fellings are pure, and the answer is fortunate. Top lines moving indicate a great deal of mental activity about all this, a strong B yo moving and produced back is good talent in talking and persuading. But here you need some more courage. The R star is still weak, it has to be relived by appointed G y (must go out from empty first), produced by the superstrong K h, at the U line. In short, you should do your own part by being more straightford on one side, and able to wait the good timing, on the other. I suggest, for your moves, days e and days s.

Xiao Hu- 11-25-2007

Question: what kind of image is suitable for me?.. I mean personal image...eg.how you present yourself to people...this sort of things Year: s, Month: cn, Day: w-IX, Empty: s & yo Strong - 34 Extreme - 43 B sh - - B wa - - wht K s X K yo - gry P w - J G h - yel B cn - B cn - red R y - R y - grn G t - U G t - blk 6 Strike Very strong P is sitting on the self line. This indicates that probably you are too tough, and as such, hurting K star which is the appointed here. Personal image is a K star. It is agreeable, accepted by others, funny and available. It is advancing but empty, at the moment. Empty, in such questions, is an I Ching indication that you need that thing. K star is grey, then a bit out of the rules and not conformist. So be more comunicative and avaialble to others needs. Note that a dead and striked G sits on the U line. G t is black, north, water. These are fortunate elements for you. Question: My girlfriend tossed a hex sometime ago to ask whether her marriage will last. Can anybody help her with prediction? Here's her toss: Year: s, Month: sh, Day: t-V, Empty: w & wa Quen - 2 Compare - 8 K yo - - J G t - - red G h X B sh - grn B c - - K s - - blk R m - - U R m - - wht P e - - P e - - gry B wa - - B wa - - yel 6 Strike Stable A "no" answer .. 6 strike isn't eliminated and the P star (marriage) is almost dead. Plus, another girl (star) is moving to bound with the man star U. Question: I've got a problem... I'm very confused as to what is happening between me and my 'Boyfriend'. It started as a normal quarrel, then it morphed out of proportion... now many many people are involved including his entire family and our friends... and the biggest thing is that we can't even speak to each other anymore. I hope that we can be friends again. Possible? I threw the coins asking that questions: "What is happening between my boyfriend and me?" and this is what I got. Year: s, Month: sh, Day: c-IV, Empty: s & yo Trapped - 47 Big Storage - 26 P wa X G y - grn B yo O K t - - blk K h O U P sh - - wht R w X P cn - gry P cn - G y - yel G y X J K t - red 6 Match There are 5 lines moving, out of six, in the hexagram. The situation is very confused, and everyone has something to say. Too many people talking and involved. The strongest stars here are the P star and the B star. They represent family (P) and friends (B), as you said. Since the situation is now out of control, they can easily harm boyfriend R and G (girl), that is you two. I'm afraid you were the one starting the quarrel, the red G sitting on the self line, means you are quite talkative, you probably asked a friend helping you or giving you support. This 'friend' is the very strong black and empty B yo at the 5th line. Becareful of your real intentions, if you are unsatisfied of your actual relation is best to be sincere instead that fooling around with someone else. How to handle? well, cool down and have some quality time for you two, separate from the rest.

Xiao Hu- 11-30-2007

It's the common question.. How doe he feels about me? Year: wa, Month: e, Day: wa-X, Empty: s & yo No Way - 25 Trade - 42 G sh - B m - wht R s - K e - gry K w O J G wa - - yel G cn - - G cn - - red B y - - B y - - grn P t - U P t - blk 6 Strike 2 answers the 2nd is by Gslind. 1) Pt black on U line represents his feelings, black is evilsness and t is related to the nature of the feelings. Very bad indeed! The hierarchial vlaue of P make him think he somwhat superior. he is pretentious. P is killing the self, there's a fight. the winner is the stronger, Kw is stronger than P t . 2) The stars meaning are related to the question asked. yes K star means "you got nothing" but unfortunately has nothing to do with feelings. :( but the meaning is not really far from that. First you need to choose the appointed. Here, we are talking about "him", not a boyfriend or husband anymore. thus he is on th U line. Next, look at the star hosted by the U line. It's a P star. It's the highest hierarchical postion in the stars family, the "Parent" star. The black color show the "quality" of his feelings. Black is evil. he is on the "dark side". Thus you can say he feels superior, etc. The K star is on the self line and is the lowest hierarchical postion in the stars family. K stands or "inferior" here (nothig-ness) put together you can say he despises you.. note the lonliness star is B not K. Bondge: look at chapter 3 of the book. a bomdge is a kind of elements association. When you have moving line in a hex and this line bounds to an element of the date, month, etc. It cannot move. A strike can break the bondge and allow the things to happen. Like "now you have to go.." Strong: dates have elements in them (month e day wa) and for that reason have particular relationships with the star elements, they give them energy. sometimes the energy is of good quality, sometimes not, depending on the elements. A star strong under the day means it receives the right kind of energy that day. "P is killing the self line , there's a fight. the winner is the stronger, Kw is stronger than P t . " This is related to the Cycles. There are 2 main cycles, the producing cycle and the killing or "controlling" cycle. When a star produces another, there should be no poblem except the fact that a weak star cannot produces a lot. When a star is killing another, the strength of the stars is important. It's like a fight. If a weak star is attacking a strong one, the weak star will be hurt. This is sometimes called "insulting". The insulting cycle is the contrary of the killing cycle: water insult soil, soil insult wood. etc.. There's a weaking cycle, which is the contrary of the producing cycle. an element producing another may weaken in the process. (If you give your money. you finally become poor) In this case, the yellow color may interpreted as a sort of safety confirmation.

Xiao Hu- 12-25-2007

My boyfriend's job required him to relocate to another country sometime ago and I'm thinking to join him in order to keep the relationship alive, which means i have to somewhat sacrifice my career here. So my question is: will i regret in the future if i make the move? Year: s, Month: t, Day: s-VII, Empty: t & c Cover - 4 P y - gry R t - - yel G yo K sh - - J red B w - - grn K cn - blk P y - - U wht The answer looks fine. You can go. Even not very strong, the K star producing hider G on the self line, is a good sign. The fire element needed, comes from the U line (the other country) which is moving to produce the friend line B w near to you. Usuful friends are helpful for a good felling, so you need to make new friends there or having a small community supporting you. I sent the e-mail on Sunday because of circumstances and because I decided that I needed to end the relationship. We had a long talk prior to me sending him the e-mail to be honest with each other. Now that I've sent it... I just want to know how he is now. Question: How will things be for D and me since he received the e-mail ? Year: s, Month: sh, Day: yo-II, Empty: w & wa Kan - 29 Separate - 59 B t X J K m - blk R sh - G e - wht P s - - R wa - - gry G w - - U G w - - yel R cn - R cn - red K y - - K y - - grn 6 Strike The self line reaches the powerful R sh, you are strong at his eyes. The U line is weak and empty, he's freezed in. 6 strike isn't eliminated, there is separation. But I think you acted too fiercy. The self line is black and R sh is opposed to 2nd line R cn near to him to which the date bound to. If there will be other contacts, there will be disputes. The U line represent him, it's empty, at the tomb according to month and weak at the day. It means that what he expected and hoped is vanishing. The self line represent you, it is vibrant at the day and moving, it shows the action. The line moves and reach the strong R sh star. White, give the image of a fiercy tiger fighting to be indipendent. So, you appears to him too strong to face or confront with.

Xiao Hu- 12-29-2007

Will my colleague be dumped by his girlfriend ? Hmm 6 strike, so it means he will not be dumped? Am I right? Can somebody please help ? Year: wa, Month: w, Day: m-II, Empty: t & c Quen - 2 Compare - 8 K yo - - J G t - - blk G h X B sh - wht B c - - K s - - gry R m - - U R m - - yel P e - - P e - - red B wa - - B wa - - grn 6 Strike Stable As the question is about someone else, Lee is represnted by the U line. Lee's line is pretty strong, the wood elements shows his abilty to be creative regarding the situation and yellow color is conservative and suggests he is perceived by her as have some "quite power". Evelyne is represneted by the Gsh star on the 5th line. The line is moving, meaning she loves him very much. However, the guy is quite romantic and the girl is intelligent enough to hide the fact that she's a dominant. The Kyo 6th line is secretly moving and produced the Gsh star so there is at least someone after her. The Kyo star balck is dead and this means that one has no chances at all. The Kyo star turns into a Gt black star meaning another girl may be attracted by lee in the future. That girl shall come in competition with Evelyin, meaning she'll try something to create trouble in the relationship. She could discover at this occasion that evelyne may be a tigress. To see that happen, you must wait for t element coming out of emptynedd, either on a t month/day or w month/day. FYI t month is November and w month is May. He will probably do something noticeable in the futur, maybe improve his own status, pushed by her own ambition. But this is another story. Finally, 6 strike is not favorable answer to your question and Stable suggests things should last. The reply to reading : Your description of Lee and Evelyne is very accurate. From our outings together I can see that Lee dots on her. Also from my coverstions and observations, I can see that Evelyin is a very smart girl who knows how to twist her man around. My freind is her 4th boyfriend! and she is only 28. My collegue is very happy to hear of your positive reading about his relationship. Like i said, he is very much and depply in love with her. Well, as for the compition thing, maybe Lee ex-girlfriend will come back into the picture? you see Lee dumped his girl for Evelyne who also dumped her lover for Lee.

wintergreen- 01-30-2008
Re: Relationship Examples
I have many examples of relationship readings. Almost all of them were done by Gtslind. The problem with relationship questions is that usually there's no way of knowing how correct the reading was since whoever asked never bothered telling what happend. still there's a lot to learn from the way Gtslind answered :wink: Question:" where will I find my next girlfriend, how will I come in contact with her ? " Month: w, Day: yo-VIII, Empty: t & c Finish - 60 Break - 41 B t X K y - gry R sh O B t - - yel P s - - U R sh - - red R c - - R c - - grn K m - K m - blk G e - J G e - wht 6 Match Where is not easy but will give it a try.. U line is something unknown, Ps is strong under the date and the stem VIII, both metal. A future date y will strike P s to bound with the G Star on self line. U line will also reach the top line Ky There are several indiction of water : 1) Strong top line B t producing the pleasure star K y, is water. 2) The U gua is water and the self gua is lake (Dui) 3) U line s element + J line e element bound and become water. Water is produced beacause stem VIII is metal supporting the transformation. 4) Upper gua in the 2nd hex is Gen-III. III combine with date VIII to produce water again. So I think you can find her somewhere near the sea (a mountain island ) or on wooded mountain by some lakes during some outdoors trip! The Km is dead and the day yo strikes it move---he is waiting to meet her, thought he doesnt have anything now Km bounds to Rsh and will break on a yo, cn Rc is empty and bound to empty Bt and will break on a w, wa I guess he will meet her on a cn or w day? or cn/w month? Ps turn to Rsh red means talking happening Rsh killing the Bt that will fulfill on a t day/mo and then killed by the R star on a cn day/mo? and empty Bt star fulfills and then produces the dead Ky star The hex has a 6 match, and the J lines is a Ge star will is good and yes the top hex means Kan water in North and the second hex means Gen Mountain in NE

wintergreen- 01-30-2008
Re: Relationship Examples
I have many examples of relationship readings. Almost all of them were done by Gtslind. The problem with relationship questions is that usually there's no way of knowing how correct the reading was since whoever asked never bothered telling what happend. still there's a lot to learn from the way Gtslind answered :wink: Question : "Is Anna the right girl for me? " Month: e, Day: y-VII, Empty: w & wa Chen - 1 Duay - 58 P sh O J P wa - - gry B s - B yo - yel R w - K h - red P cn O U P c - - grn G y - G m - blk K t - R e - wht 6 Strike 6 Strike You are very different from each other, you seems to have different points of veiws for nearlly all. Both P stars are retreating so you are maybe separating. Her menatlity (U line) is linked to an advancing B telling that she's really thinking to be alone. Yet you still have a strong possibility which can eliminate the double 6 strike. in a future date s when 2nd line moves to bound with self line. and when 4th line Rw (after w & wa came up) can move to link to a very strong advancing G star. G y will also move on date s so the slef line gets the direct connection with a storng and advancing G which is absolutely good. so many things depened on you the strong and empty red R tells a alot. Red R means you arguing to much. J and U fighting over P lines means that you two have many divergences on your agreements but your is gray, she's green. her opinoins are more reasonable and correct than yours. the Kt, Kh stars are weak and dead Gm bound to Psh and break on yo, cn Pcn bound to Byo and break sh, m empty Rw bound to empty Pwa wa and w fulfills and then breaks t, c the J and U line are bother retreating lines they wont be feel they are right for each other? and the y day strikes the Bs star to move, advancing line B star is friend, girlfriend killer, and talking so they talked and are just friends double 6 strike i guess are permanent

wintergreen- 01-30-2008

in the Question: "Will I marry this girl?" Code: Month: cn, Day: e-VI, Empty: sh & h Strong - 34 Wonderful - 11 B sh - - K yo - - yel K s - - G h - - red P w O J B c - - grn B cn - B cn - blk R y - R y - wht G t - U G t - gry 6 Strike 6 Match The hexagram shows your friend intentions on regards to marriage. Strong P (marriage) moves to bound with Girl star U. But I don't think the answer is favourable. G star is too weak and moving P is striking her. She doesn't agree at first. B c bounding means she would feel suffocated, or controlled too much. G star is grey, she's a bit unconventional. Not a good idea at the moment, but 6 match still indicate a relationship (on a different basis) the Gt, Gh are weak and dead Ry is weak Gt bounds to Bc and break on w, wa self line P produce B, happening to talk when Pw strikes with t day/mo Bsh star needs to fulfill U line is weak G star, little gain 6 strike then 6 match first things dont go well, then good

wintergreen- 01-30-2008

In the Question: "How do i get the girl i like? I have one in mind now...?" Code: Month: cn, Day: y-V, Empty: s & yo Same - 13 Revolution - 49 K sh O U K wa - - red G s - G yo - grn B w - R h - blk R h - J R h - wht K c - - K c - - gry P m - P m - yel Stable Girl star is secretely moving to bound with month cn, this is an indication that she's moving away. You should ask her out on a day t and see her on day m Rh is weak and dead on y day, you have a weak chance to get something Rh will be healthy on a s or yo day Bw bound to kwa break on t, c Pm bound to Ksh break on yo,cn empty Gs and Gyo star ksh strike with cn retreating after Gs fulfills and strikes with y will be advancing gain so m or y day or t day?

wintergreen- 01-30-2008

Question: " The situation is this: I've completely fallen for a girl who initially showed great interest, but because of my foolish impatience, I may have scared her off with talk of love and all time. I need to know whether her recent refusal of my advances indicates a permanent separation between us, or whether there might possibly be a chance in the future, if I am patient, to rekindle the flame. " Code: Year: s, Month: h, Day: yo-VI, Empty: y & m Trapped - 47 Unsettled - 64 P wa X R e - yel B yo O P wa - - red K h - U B yo - grn R w - - R w - - blk P cn - P cn - wht G y - - J G y - - gry 6 Match If the question is "Will I have the chance to love her again? " the answer is yes. But .. the problem here is that the Girl star, sitting on the self line, is empty. Yes, you will have the chance to love her again, but seems having to do more with you, rather than her. Are you sure you know her so much for your love? .. An empty appointed, sitting on the self line, means that what you have in mind about the appointed (the Girl star in this case) is still rather confused, being more a condition of the mind, than reality. This contains an advice for you. Btw, your fellings are pure, and the answer is fortunate. Top lines moving indicate a great deal of mental activity about all this, a strong B yo moving and produced back is good talent in talking and persuading. But here you need some more courage. The R star is still weak, it has to be relived by appointed G y (must go out from empty first), produced by the superstrong K h, at the U line. In short, you should do your own part by being more straightford on one side, and able to wait the good timing, on the other. I suggest, for your moves, days e and days s. self line is a yin line so strats from line 6 to line1 Rw bound to Pwa and break on a t,c connects to Byo moving to Pwa and connects to U line Kh and Byo Byo needs a m to strike it to move to Pwa Pwa needs a c to strike it to move to Re The self line G star which is good when Gy fulfills and strikes with s to move to get gain 6 match is yes

Xiao Hu- 01-30-2008

The Km is dead and the day yo strikes it move---he is waiting to meet her, thought he doesnt have anything now Km bounds to Rsh and will break on a yo, cn Rc is empty and bound to empty Bt and will break on a w, wa I guess he will meet her on a cn or w day? or cn/w month? Ps turn to Rsh red means talking happening Rsh killing the Bt that will fulfill on a t day/mo and then killed by the R star on a cn day/mo? and empty Bt star fulfills and then produces the dead Ky star The hex has a 6 match, and the J lines is a Ge star will is good and yes the top hex means Kan water in North and the second hex means Gen Mountain in NE what's your point telling the strength of each star without explaining what each star mean ??? what is K ? what is G etc.. 1) Km doesn't move beacuse line is to weak. also 5th and 6th line can't produce Km right now beacuse month w cut line loose. 2) Rc is empty so LINE CAN'T BOUND WITH ANYTHING! 3) guy asked WHERE he will meat her not when. anyway when asking when P is the appointed.. 4) Ps dosn't turn to anything beacuse LINE ISN'T MOVING! 5) 6 match doesn't mean a thing since he didn't ask a yes or no question. the Kt, Kh stars are weak and dead Gm bound to Psh and break on yo, cn Pcn bound to Byo and break sh, m empty Rw bound to empty Pwa wa and w fulfills and then breaks t, c the J and U line are bother retreating lines they wont be feel they are right for each other? and the y day strikes the Bs star to move, advancing line B star is friend, girlfriend killer, and talking so they talked and are just friends double 6 strike i guess are permanent 1) Kh is weak, so what ? guy asked if she is the right girl for him.. 2) Gm doesn't bound with Psh beacuse LINE ISN'T MOVING. 3) Rw doesn't bound with Pwa beacuse Rw IS EMPTY and NOT MOVING 4) Bs on 5th can't move beacuse month e hold it. line is Yellow NOT Red so talking isn't the meaning here. 5) 6 strike ISN'T Permanent! just read what Gtslind said! the Gt, Gh are weak and dead Ry is weak Gt bounds to Bc and break on w, wa self line P produce B, happening to talk when Pw strikes with t day/mo Bsh star needs to fulfill U line is weak G star, little gain 6 strike then 6 match first things dont go well, then good 1) when day t comes the only thing that will happen is that moving Self line, Pw, will be cut loose. also P moving producing B doesn't mean happening to talk. 2) Bsh needs to fulfill, why ?? 3) you say G star little gain.. it's a realtionship question not money realted question. so G represnts girl. 4) 6 strike is permanent so the answer to his question is NO. but since 2nd hex is a 6 match as Gstlind said "indicate a relationship (on a different basis) " No offence meant, so you can tell each star strength :roll: but unless you can give meaning to the stars in hex it's of no interest. specially if lines don't move, have no connection to question or if you have nothing to add to previous reading :wink: .

wintergreen- 01-30-2008

Xiao Hu, thanks for checking :shock: i thought people knew the meaning of the stars i thought i put in what i read and if i am wrong sorry... :(

Xiao Hu- 01-30-2008

no need to be sorry, we all make mistakes and we are here to learn. :D part of explaining the meaning of the stars, moving lines etc, is related to knowing star strength. try using the extended version of Healthy, Strong, Weak it's more in depth than alex chart of strength link: forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=724" target="_blank">http://idu.16.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=724

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