Question to francofiori2004.
Anyways,francofiori2004,why do you not "practice what you preach":
I mean if you know that Krsna-Consciouness is the way and you know
so much about it,why do you not then fully practice it too?
Jukka
Krsna-Consciousness and the path of Jesus are the same thing:
one could for instance become ""Jesus-Conscious"(in perfect bliss
and not bothered anymore by ANYTHING) by chanting "Jesus Christ" and applying the same rules that to ones life that a Krsna-Consicious person does(no meat eating,wake up at 03-06 to chant 2h,always give food first
to God and eat only little,no alcohol,no sex,no drugs of anykind).Because all religions have some truth to them,they have just lost(or distorted) the essence of it.
Jukka
CR, that word trick can be used to argue anything, it is not valid. For example I meet you on the street and you told me your name, I would say how do I know your real name, you would show me your id card, I would say how would I know this is real, you would say because it is issued by the government, how do I know it really was issued by the government, you say because it's stamped by the government, how do I know that is a real government stamp and so on etc etc.
People who use word tricks only win conversations because the other person gets tired fed up.
Maybe you are right; however, you are telling people that Jesus is the savior because the Bible says so. Your proof is the words of the Bible. You know that the Bible was written by God. Because you believe that God wrote it, you need no further evidence.
Franco says that Krsna is God because of something some religious text told him. That's his proof. He believes it, and therefore needs no more proof.
Saying that Jesus is the Lord and accepting anyone to believe it depends on them believing that the Bible was written by God. Do not say "the Bible says so" as an argument; it just makes you look stupid. Your beliefs are a matter of faith, not a matter of fact.
Your self-righteousness and constant criticism is behavior fit for the pharisees.
I really do not like it when somebody believes something and think everybody else should because they have "proof" that could only convince somebody who already believes it.
So you believe in christ because the bible said so, and you believe the bible because christ said to. wait a minute.
Re: Question to francofiori2004.
Anyways,francofiori2004,why do you not "practice what you preach":
I mean if you know that Krsna-Consciouness is the way and you know
so much about it,why do you not then fully practice it too?
Jukka
What I really believe is science and philosophy. I just do experiment with religions sometimes.
ATAO:"I aggree with some of what you say, but Krsna-Consciousness (whatever that is) and the path of Jesus are not the same thing. Jesus-Conscious sounds like man made it up, the best we can achieve is Christ Like doing our best to act and think like christ and it is not easy."
In fact Christ himself was not a good man because he just acted so,but because he was also practicing similar rituals as a Krsna-Bhakti would,but he could no tell that to the people of his time and place,so he told what he could:the birth of Christ-Religion.But it is impossible to act like Christ just by trying normally to do so,one has to TRULY follow Christ and become Christ-Conscious.This is what Christ would like to for everyone to have: the complete end of all miseries to all humans.For all souls have the original Christ-Consciousness that is our original identity,and it is not reached by any outer means(for instance by "acting good"),but only by chanting Christs name(or Krsnas,Yehowas,Allahs,and so on).
I myself for instance have a terrible sickness for almost 4 years already,and a few years ago I could hardly even get out of the bed,my muscles were(are) so weak.But now that I chant 2 hours a day,I only sleep 3 hours a day(00-03) and feel incredibly energetic and peaceful inspite of the terrible pains.And I haven´t masturbated of used any alcohol for 2 years,not by trying not to do so,but because I feel all the time like my mother was hugging me(only 1000X stronger) so the body does´nt even want to do so.I am not bothered by anything,I am always completely "Christlike" no matter what happens.(An advanced "Conscious-person" could even have his body tortured and not even still be bothered about it.)
Jukka
Basing on my exploring in religions' world, I can say amonra has a good understanding in what religion really is.
Of course, unless religions are not invented by reptilians as Icke claims.
Or maybe reptilians are unconscious instruments of God.
Who knows?
francofiori2004:
"What I really believe is science and philosophy. I just do experiment with religions sometimes."
Ok,I see.
"Of course, unless religions are not invented by reptilians as Icke claims. "
In my understanding religions that "bind" people in someway are
created by reptilians and "religions" that really FREE people are
not(Buddhism,Krsna-Cons,Wicca,White Magic,and so on.) and are
in fact their most biggest threat(I myself for instance have a Magical
Temple in which I perform "banishingin rituals" every day and no reptilian could get me anymore).
"Or maybe reptilians are unconscious instruments of God.
Who knows?"
Like my Krsna-Master said:Its all Karma:we are in a world like this(reptilians running the show) because of our past Karma,nothing else.
Jukka
