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frank2008- 03-18-2007
Plejarans Aliens
What you think about the Meier case? About it: http://www.theyfly.com/ www.billymeier.com www.figu.org http://www.gaiaguys.net http://www.gaiaguys.net/Answers.html http://theyfly.com/prophecies/prophecies.htm http://www.tjresearch.info/witnessa.htm

frank2008- 03-18-2007

One beautiful sentence from Billy Meier (the contactee): "Mother Teresa "produced" things she then believed to be real and true. Actually she was living in a religious-sectarian delusion. Mother Teresa was a serious criminal. She was dealing (selling) children and sending/donating about 2 billion/milliard $ to the Pope. She did take children into her care in order to raise and educate them. She then sold them to rich people (Europeans, Americans, ...), and when the parents of the children were asking about them she told them that the child had died. If you are searching the internet you will find reports by journalists who were investigating this case. They were talking with parents whose children could not to be found anymore."

frank2008- 03-19-2007

Photos: http://www.figu.org/us/ufology/index.htm

frank2008- 03-19-2007

I like these ones :

frank2008- 03-19-2007

From theyfly.com : "Over the years, debunkers, skeptics have claimed to be able to duplicate the movies and the photos. They state that Meier faked the movies and used models to create a fantastic hoax. To date, no one has managed to prove that Meier faked any film or photographs. No one has successfully duplicated any of Meier's films or photos either. Remember, the personal computer was in its infancy and Adobe Photoshop wasn't even a dream yet. Mr. Meier was not educated in photography and was handicapped by the loss of his left arm. One of the loudest debunkers was a professional model maker Jeff Ritzmann who attempted to recreate the famous Wedding Cake photos. After months of labor, Mr. Ritzmann had his models complete. Mr. Horn compared Mr. Meier's actual photos side-by-side with Mr. Rizmann's photos and let the audience compare. From my vantage point Mr. Ritzmann's model was very similar to Mr. Meier's. Similar but not exact. In fact, much of the detail seen in Meier's photos was missing in Mr. Ritzmann's model. This was simply a model, a static representation of a craft seen in a photo. Mr. Ritzmann, although he had promised to do so, did not attempt to fly his model or place it in photographs or film. This attempt to duplicate Billy Meier's photos and films took place in 2005! Remember, Meier's material was shot 30 years ago. Mr. Horn then offered evidence to the audience of Mr. Meier's films. By going to Switzerland and finding the exact locales where the films/photos were shot and by measuring distances from landmarks, the positions of trees etc. one can prove that the photographs, indeed the objects in the photographs are authentic"

frank2008- 03-20-2007

Professional Skeptics Group Proves UFOs Real! Organization expected to retract defamatory claims, facilitate $1,000,000 award to Swiss man LOS ANGELES - It was only a matter of time before a breakthrough in authenticating the existence of non-terrestrial UFOs would take place but, surely, nobody thought it would come about this way. Despite mounting evidence over the past half-century the arbiters and manipulators of public opinion in media, governmental and scientific circles, along with professional skeptics and debunkers, have marginalized serious discussion of UFOs and dismissed all evidence as inconclusive and flawed. Defamatory Claims? A special target, at the top of the hit list for skeptics and debunkers for more than 25 years, are the claimed contacts of a Swiss man, Billy Meier. Meier, who claimed that his contacts with extraterrestrial humans began in 1942, when he was five years old, also says that they continue to this day, more than 60 years later. But the skeptics, in labeling Meier and his evidence as fraudulent, claim that he hoaxed his 35mm photos and 8mm film segments of the UFOs during the mid-1970s using models or some unidentified form of special effects wizardry to accomplish the alleged deception. Professional skeptics, such as the international organization CFI, magician/skeptic The "Amazing" Randi and science writer/skeptic Michael Shermer, have long been in the forefront of those accusing Meier of hoaxing his physical evidence, which also includes video and sound recordings, as well as metal alloy samples. Meier's supporters state that these claims run counter to the results of scientific examination of Meier's evidence by experts from JPL, IBM, USGS and Nippon TV, as well as special effects expert Wally Gentleman, known for his work on Stanley Kubrick's "2001", among many films. They also claim that all of Meier's physical evidence remains irreproducible even with today's technology. The Challenge In order to definitively resolve the matter, in early February 2001, a number of Meier's more than 1200 photos and eight film segments were presented for examination to case investigator Vaughn Rees of CFI West, the Los Angeles branch of CFI. Mr. Rees concluded that, in his expert opinion, they were all "easily duplicated hoaxes" and that the two lights seen flashing alternately from two different parts of the UFO in the film (Hasenbol, March 18, 1976 at: www.figu.org/us/ufology/videos.htm) were accomplished simply by Meier's scratching the film with a pin. Mr. Rees agreed to back up his claims by duplicating one of Meier's UFO photos along with the film segment, which should be the easiest to duplicate because it was the only one of Meier's that had no other objects in it to compare to the UFO. Mr. Rees stated that he already had a 35mm photo camera and knew where to acquire an 8mm movie camera. His work wasn't required to be exact to the last detail, just convincingly comparable in quality to Meier's. Over the next two months Mr. Rees failed to submit anything to back up his claims and, in May of 2001, it was suggested that he could try using any high-tech equipment available to him, i.e. computers, special effects, Photoshop, etc., to fulfill his commitment. It was also suggested that, if he wished to be sporting about it, he should use only one hand since Meier is a one-armed man. The Results Two years later, at a UFO conference in February of 2003, Mr. Rees was confronted about his failure to meet the challenge. He responded that he still didn't have access to a photo-processing lab, which Meier himself never had access to, having sent all of his films off to a local shop for developing. Mr. Rees was reminded that he could, and perhaps had already tried to, use any high-tech means at his disposal instead. In a comparable two-year period Mr. Meier had, with one hand, produced hundreds of photos, while the able-bodied, technology-savvy Mr. Rees had produced none. Now, about three years have passed and Mr. Rees has still failed to provide even one photo or film to back up his claims. In a three-year period of time Meier had taken nearly 1,000 photographs and, in about one year's time, he took at least one-half dozen of his 8mm films, and he did all of this using only one hand! A comparable number and quality of such types of films for an individual special effects person during the mid-1970s (and maybe any other time period) would be quite respectable, though an Internet search will reveal that no such cinematic accomplishments, professional or otherwise, exist. This may be the first, and most important, time in history that skeptics have set out to disprove a presumed hoax and ended up proving its authenticity. And, in this case, what they proved is undoubtedly the factuality of the most important event in human history, the existence of, and contact with, extraterrestrials. What Integrity Demands The professional skeptics of the Meier case have concocted all sorts of fanciful notions and theories as to how he hoaxed the evidence. But when challenged to prove their claims they repeatedly replied that it was not their job to attempt to duplicate the evidence, although conducting themselves according to the scientific method would require it. Their time for freely, and irresponsibly, attacking Meier ran out when Mr. Rees and CFI West utterly and completely failed to meet the challenge they had finally accepted. In so doing, they effectively proved Meier's UFOs real and their own claims unsubstantiated and defamatory. Unequivocal public retractions and apologies are now due Meier from CFI West, Vaughn Rees, Randi, Michael Shermer, etc. They have indulged in character assassination, slander and libel, and the sloppiest, least scientific thinking imaginable. It is now absolutely incumbent upon any and all of the skeptics who have offered money for proof of "paranormal" phenomenon, to offer it to Meier and his non-profit organization in Switzerland, FIGU. Specifically, the offer by Randi of $1,000,000 for proof of a paranormal ability has been more than satisfied and must be paid. Integrity demands that they now live up to their word. There can be absolutely no argument, dispute or doubt now, especially considering the abysmal, failed attempts by the skeptical accusers themselves, with any tools at their disposal, to debunk, let alone duplicate, Meier's stunning proof. Now it's time to recognize that the most important event in human history has occurred and to discover what meaning it holds for us. Addendum While the skeptics have offered an unexpected contribution to authenticating what have come to be known as the Meier Contacts, it's really only the tip of a very deep and solid iceberg of irrefutable proof far beyond a reasonable doubt. Noted Astronomer Corroborates Additional Evidence In April of 2003, Dr. Joseph Veverka, Chairman of the Astronomy Department at Cornell University, was presented with documentation of specific information on Jupiter, its rings and its moons, published by Meier in October, 1978, five months before the Voyager probe photographed and relayed the information back to Earth. When shown the evidence that Meier described the moon Io as being the most volcanically active body in the solar system, prior to the first official knowledge of it in March of 1979, Dr. Veverka was direct and candid, "If he said that 3-5 months before, then all that I can say is that he's right." Meier also documented the fact that Jupiter has rings; described the chemical composition of the planet's surface, the coloration of it's moons, Io's smooth surface and Europa being encrusted in ice. But far more amazingly, Meier accurately described both the composition and the source of Jupiter's rings 20 years before scientists from Cornell announced their findings, in 1998! Prophetically Accurate Information In February of 1995, Meier published a lengthy document of enormous complexity in which he foretold the likelihood of certain specific future events. In September 2001, portions of that information were included in the book "And Yet They Fly!" written by Guido Moosbrugger, an Austrian former schoolteacher and principle acquainted with Meier for about 25 years. The following seven items, foretold on pages 347 and 348 of "And Yet They Fly!" have recently occurred and virtually in the sequence Meier foretold: The strike or attack by the US and its president (Iraq). Meier even used the word "stun" when he said the strike would "...stun the entire world..." "Stun" is a synonym for the term "shock" used by the US as in "shock and awe". Meier correctly predicted the following upsurge in unrest and violence from Islamic fundamentalists. Meier foretold the spread of AIDS, which has indeed become very widespread. Mad Cow Disease has since spread to other animals and humans as Meier also predicted. Meier said that a new disease and epidemic would then appear and SARS did just that. His warning regarding a renewed threat of chemical warfare is more in the news than ever. Meier specifically warned of the possibility of an accident, one that he said could be avoided, however, at the nuclear power plant near Lyon, France. The emergency scenario, and the timely shut down of that exact plant, occurred on August 12, 2003. Now, in case the astronomically high odds against any kind of coincidences or lucky guesses aren't apparent, consider that Meier identified the following eight years in advance: The exact country and leader (out of hundreds) that would launch a stunning attack and a synonym for the term actually used by that country's leader (impossible to calculate). The exact religious group (out of thousands) that would respond with their own attacks. The exact disease (out of thousands) that would spread widely among humans. The exact animal disease (out of thousands) that would spread to other animals and humans. The sudden appearance of a new disease and epidemic. The exact kind of weapons and warfare that would cause renewed threats. The exact location (out of 436) and type of facility (out of several) that would have a near-accident. If this doesn't qualify as a genuine demonstration of psychic or paranormal abilities nothing does. And it far exceeds any reasonable requirements to garner the financial award promised for such a demonstration, though that never has been the purpose of Meier's mission. It is only fitting, however, that those who have long accused him of being a hoaxer out for non-existent, and unproven, financial gain, should now have the opportunity to reward him, not only for his abilities, but also for suffering the fools and their defamation for so long. For those who may be unaware, in addition to character assassination, Meier has survived 19 ( documented) actual assassination attempts. The Sound Recordings Finally, the skeptics (and others who've actually tried) have also been unable to reproduce the sound recordings Meier made of a UFO, using only a cassette tape recorder, in an open field in front of 15 witnesses. There are 32 simultaneous frequencies occurring, 24 in the audible and eight in the inaudible range. To date, they remain irreproducible even with state-of-the-art synthesizers, let alone with cassette machines outdoors. You can hear, and download, a three-minute sample of the sounds at: www.figu.org/us/ufology/beamship_sound.htm and experiment with them yourself. You will also find more documentation on the Meier Contacts at this website: www.andyettheyfly.com. The Most Important Event In Human History Now that the authenticity of the Meier Contacts have been firmly established, we can begin to examine the information, and the real purpose, behind the most important event in human history. Hint: It has to do with our future survival. by Michael Horn, USA

frank2008- 03-20-2007

Look this video: http://www.billymeier.com/archives/Wedding_Cake_ship.mpg Here even appears Meier in front of the camera and beside the ufo. And meier is younger , so it is really made in 1978. How can it be fake? We are in 2007 and nobody could prove it fake.

CerealRapist- 03-22-2007

Look this video: http://www.billymeier.com/archives/Wedding_Cake_ship.mpg Here even appears Meier in front of the camera and beside the ufo. And meier is younger , so it is really made in 1978. How can it be fake? We are in 2007 and nobody could prove it fake. That is one of the least convincing UFO videos I have ever seen. The lighting is off, the UFO's perceived depth and distance seems at odds with the distance it's supposed to be at, and there is absolutely no movement at all.

Jotun- 03-22-2007

They are fake, I remember reading about it and the guy took a photo of a alien but it was found out to be taken off a tv show. Yes they were photos from the Dean Martin Show. Here's Billy's comedic explanation. http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/updates/1998/may/m23-010.shtml Those damn Men In Black! :roll:

frank2008- 03-22-2007

I think Meier's explanation is convincing. Come on, think carefully! If you want to fake a photo in which appears 2 alien women (HUMANS women), would you take a photo FROM TV of 2 FAMOUS USA dancers?? It's like taking a photo of condoleeza Rice and tell to the world: you see? I met this alien, I have proof! Why didn't Meier simply payed 2 unknown common women to take a pic of them???

jc- 03-22-2007

Is there any pics of the ALIENS MEIER took pictures of ? its always those UFO`s, you say he had an AGREEMENT with the ALIENS so he could take pictures, i would think taking pictures of the ALIENS themselves would have been the best proof.

jc- 03-22-2007

Franco, dont you find it strange that the closest UFO pictures are ALWAYS next to a TREE ?? really, C`mon..

frank2008- 03-23-2007

Not always. Anyway what does it mean? If they are bound to the tree they are 7 metres diameter, so not models.

frank2008- 03-23-2007

Is there any pics of the ALIENS MEIER took pictures of ? its always those UFO`s, you say he had an AGREEMENT with the ALIENS so he could take pictures, i would think taking pictures of the ALIENS themselves would have been the best proof. Absolutly not! Plejarans look simply like humans!

jc- 03-23-2007

AH yes, of course they do.. It would have been too STRANGE and SHOCKING for the ''ALIENS'' to look different from us, of course. That why MEIER did not take any pictures... he he :lol: