Person called Ron may be the messiah? exclusive
http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/stats.html?info_hash=49ad3cef0999d768f4651b20e88fb528b019c4e0 Maybe some of you may find the audio interesting Al Fry has been telling me about this guy "Ron Heffner" for several years now. I have not seen Al since I visited him in 1993, and he must be at least 80 years old by now. Al has been saying that this guy Ron is some kind of Messiah or something, and I really didn't ask or get too concerned. I don't know him. Ron Heffner apparently helped build Al a cabin after Al's trailer burned down. Since posting various Al Fry books and materials on honesty.org, I have accrued a grand total of about $150 in revenue so I can't really help Al at all. The donations help with Web fees. So why bother Al's cabin building friend? Pedro met this guy once and was NOT impressed. I didn't know anything about him so what was I supposed to say? I asked Al a year ago to record his story and asked him to tape this mysterious guy "Ron Heffner". At the time, Al wrote to me and reported that Ron didn't want the attention because if too many people knew he was the Messiah, they would demand too much of his time. Now I know why Ron did not want attention. This guy has got to be the sleaziest two bit sawed-off DICK I've ever heard recorded. I do not know if Al taped this surreptitiously or what, but wow, what a loser. It sounds like Ron is trying to sleep with a 17-year-old girl, but at least I must commend him for his honor for picking such a "mature" target. Al made no mention whether or not this tape was to be made public or not, but I have posted lots of Al's stuff here before. He's getting old and so his judgment may be a bit out. I think the best idea to post this for the public record. It is one hour in length and transferred from analog cassette tape. The audio is not very good, but at least you can hear a genuine minor-league cult leader in his native habitat. Nick: if you can ever get over the fact that I insulted Aleister Crowley, or whatever it was that I said that touched you off... maybe you can make time to come to Vancouver for Fatburger, and then we will truck down to Idaho and kick this guy's ass. I left the audio capture at full bit rate because when I tried to compress it, the sound quality was diminished. As is, the audio is not good but it's legible. Well, at least this guy helped build Al a cabin. Aside from that it doesn't sound like he has any other redemptive qualities aside from being the "Messiah". Al says this has been going on for about 10 years. Al mentioned that someone had smashed Ron's front window a few months ago. Obviously this is because the guy is a DICK, and not because he's a holy man. Anyway, the tape should be good for curiosity or maybe a couple of laughs and I I'm not concerned about its release even if it was only for my ears. Subconsciously, Al probably knows that this guy needs to be put into his place and that's why he did the taping. tkra Vancouver Picture of Ron supposedly melting snow with psychic power. http://honesty.org/fry/images/ronheffner.jpg WTF do I know? The whole planet is going nuts. Actually, this guy is such a dick that I should consider taking my entire site down and rebuilding something totally from scratch. I give up. Well, as for Al's stuff. It was all produced long BEFORE this dick surfaced. Al retired 10 years ago.

Nah. F*ck that guy. Im the messiah. I realized I cannot trust anybody else with my world corp plan. And the world corp plan will work. In the future, the dictator or the president that turns in his country to the corp shall become the king of his land. His sons and grandsons shall be royalty there forever. Hell if I were the dictator I will take it. Sounds like a great deal.

....If the world is incorporated what does it mea n to be king of a country?! How can a just system of rule support a hereditary monarchy?!

How do you download the file, anyway?

Hehehe. the king doesn't have real power. He's a king just like the king of England. Just royalty and enjoy life with his whole family for eternity. Good offer ey? I mean if I am a dictator I probably will accept this offer because my whole family is protected under the world corp, the strongest empire of the world. I worry about nothing. I am royalty and my whole family is the most important family in my country. If I continue to be dictator I could be overthrown someday in a military coop. If I am just a president, the next president could take the offer and sell the country to the world corp and he becomes the royalty, not me. So I think most people will take the offer, sooner or later. Then the world corp will just grow.

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I think alex is the messiah. I just don't understand how he's going to be the messiah without being in politics when the messiah is a political position.

Alex...for starters England doesn't have a King, the British Isles have a Queen. Second of all, if all of his family forever get this privileged position then you have a society where by nature peoples fortune does not correspond to their merit! You're attempting to create an "ideal" society whereby certain people who have no reason to deserve it are born with massive amounts of money and power - like a Monarch, whether a political figure or simply a nominal figurehead. You would be creating an unfair imbalance of power from the outset, especially by guaranteeing the hereditary nation of the position from age to age...

Even if everyone on earth accepted that he had invented immortality, and he was venerated, his views and his personal character would come under heavy fire - as he has stated himself, his invention came as a result of luck, not any positive aspect of his own character. Those are his own words not mine. I doubt he'd be respected that much by those who currently have the most power...

but world corp is also the right solution workd politics is already going in that direction.. USA, ONU, EU, ..

Many corporations are already more rich and powerful than entire countries, and this trend is only likely to continue, which seems to indicate that whoever are at the head of a "world corporation" would essentially control the world. Compared to that, a mere king would be essentially a puppet, and could be deposed at any time if he goes against the interests of the corporation (just like American corporations have done for a long time by using the US military to take down capitalism-unfriendly regimes). So it is very unlikely that any king on Earth would be secure in his position under such a system.

Not if the King is immortal. When you are immortal, young , healthy and gorgeous, you are more humble, more wise and have less interest in money and power.

from http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=320510 "...It would be pointless to list the unworkable parts of his idea. It's much easier to adress the workable parts- there are none. Why would anybody accept the plan? What would the citizens of these countries have to gain? Why would any leader accept it? Chiu says that these leaders would become wealthy (without ever explaining where the money would come from), but I can't see the leaders of the USA, Russia, etc selling the indepence of their country for money- especially when they would almost certainly be assasinated before they could spend it. The president of any democracy doesn't have the power to accept the terms of the plan anyway. Giving up ownership of the military and radically restructuring the government would require the actions of congress, the parliament, etc. Chiu never explains where the corporation's profits come from. He suggests that they are from taxes. How is it the corporation is able to build roads, fund schools etc and have money left over to pay stockholders? How could you simply shuffle the armed forces to different countries? Leaving aside issues of personnel transport, you still have soldiers in a country they're unfamiliar with, they don't speak the language etc. Either transport costs go up as every vehicle and plane are also moved, or you have US soldiers who trained and worked on US tanks having to be trained on Chinese tanks. Chiu has this fantasy that nations will cheerfully give up their soveriegnty. Look at the UN. It ain't gonna happen."