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SobSub- 10-04-2007
People "choosing" to be gay
According to some people homosexuals chose to be gay. Is that any more true than saying that left-handed people chose to be left-handed?

DPRK- 10-04-2007

No, I don't believe people are gay by choice... You're either born gay or in rare cases, you're raped during childhood (which can cause a lot of confusion as the child develops)... But, can your average heterosexual decide to be gay? I don't think so. Let me ask you this: Do you think you (or a heterosexual in general) can get drunk and just decide to pack some fudge or make out with a dude? You're born the way you are and thats all there is to it.

eldard- 10-04-2007

How about homosexual animals? Did they choose to be gay?

TwistinUnderSchizophrenia- 10-05-2007

I didn't choose to be heterosexual (glad I am), so I don't think people choose to be homosexual. With the way many people in society thinks of them, why would someone want to live that way. They have to go out every day worrying if someone's gonna come up and kick their ass because of their lifestyle.

SobSub- 10-05-2007

"Imagine if it was said that being a rapist or a bank robber wasn't a choice and people were simply born with that" is an argument commonly made by people who believe that homosexuality is a choice. Of course, I don't think you can compare being homosexual with being a rapist.

TheATA1- 10-06-2007

Homosexuality is a choice, nobody is born gay. Unfortunately TPTB and also most environmental groups are putting out propaganda and lies that homosexuality is a valid alternative lifestyle, they want the population to fall and promoting homosexuality there will be less reproduction and more aids. Issue No.: 232 by: Timothy J. Dailey, Ph. D. Homosexual activists attempt to portray their lifestyle as normal and healthy, and insist that homosexual relationships are the equivalent in every way to their heterosexual counterparts. Hollywood and the media relentlessly propagate the image of the fit, healthy, and well-adjusted homosexual. The reality is quite opposite to this caricature which was recently conceded by the homosexual newspaper New York Blade News: Although the Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychologists article found no significant connection between male homosexuals and alcohol abuse, a study in Family Planning Perspective concluded that male homosexuals were at greatly increased risk for alcoholism: "Among men, by far the most important risk group consisted of homosexual and bisexual men, who were more than nine times as likely as heterosexual men to have a history of problem drinking."<67> The study noted that problem drinking may contribute to the "significantly higher STD rates among gay and bisexual men." Promiscuity among Homosexual Couples. Even in those homosexual relationships in which the partners consider themselves to be in a committed relationship, the meaning of "committed" typically means something radically different from marriage. · In The Male Couple, authors David P. McWhirter and Andrew M. Mattison reported that in a study of a hundred-fifty-six males in homosexual relationships lasting from one to thirty-seven years, Only seven couples have a totally exclusive sexual relationship, and these men all have been together for less than five years. Stated another way, all couples with a relationship lasting more than five years have incorporated some provision for outside sexual activity in their relationships.<13> · In Male and Female Homosexuality, M. Saghir and E. Robins found that the average male homosexual live-in relationship lasts between two and three years. Human Papillomavirus (HPV). HPV is a collection of more than seventy types of viruses that can cause warts, or papillomas, on various parts of the body. More than twenty types of HPV are incurable STDs that can infect the genital tract of both men and women. Most HPV infections are subclinical or asymptomatic, with only one in a hundred people experiencing genital warts. · HPV is "almost universal" among homosexuals. According to the homosexual newspaper The Washington Blade: "A San Francisco study of Gay and bisexual men revealed that HPV infection was almost universal among HIV-positive men, and that 60 percent of HIV-negative men carried HPV."<17> · HPV can lead to anal cancer. At the recent Fourth International AIDS Malignancy Conference at the National Institutes of Health, Dr. Andrew Grulich announced that "most instances of anal cancer are caused by a cancer-causing strain of HPV through receptive anal intercourse. HPV infects over 90 percent of HIV-positive gay men and 65 percent of HIV-negative gay men, according to a number of recent studies."<18> · The link between HPV and cervical cancer. Citing a presentation by Dr. Stephen Goldstone to the International Congress on Papillomavirus in Human Pathology in Paris, the Washington Blade reports that "HPV is believed to cause cervical cancer in women." Reduced Life Span. A study published in the International Journal of Epidemiology on the mortality rates of homosexualsconcluded that they have a significantly reduced life expectancy: In a major Canadian centre, life expectancy at age twentyfor gay and bisexual men is eight to twenty years less than for all men. If the same pattern of mortality were to continue, we estimate that nearly half of gay and bisexual men currently aged twenty years will not reach their sixty-fifth birthday. Under even the most liberal assumptions, gay and bisexual men in this urban centre are now experiencing a life expectancy similar to that experienced by all men in Canada in the year 1871.< This is from an artical from the family research center. http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=Is01B1#edn30 As you can see, homosexuality is wrong and deadly, your life expectancy is greatly reduced, therefore you can not promote it as a valid lifestyle as it causes early death. A study of twins that examined the relationship between homosexuality and suicide, published in the Archives of General Psychiatry,found that homosexuals with same-sex partners were at greater risk for overall mental health problems, and were 6.5 times more likely than their twins to have attempted suicide. The higher rate was not attributable to mental health or substance abuse disorders. You much more likely to commit suicide if you are homosexual. Although the Journal of Consulting and Clinical Psychologists article found no significant connection between male homosexuals and alcohol abuse, a study in Family Planning Perspective concluded that male homosexuals were at greatly increased risk for alcoholism: "Among men, by far the most important risk group consisted of homosexual and bisexual men, who were more than nine times as likely as heterosexual men to have a history of problem drinking."<67> The study noted that problem drinking may contribute to the "significantly higher STD rates among gay and bisexual men." Your nine times as likely to have a problem drinking history than straight men if your homosexual. Gay Bowel Syndrome (GBS):<32> The Journal of the American Medical Association refers to GBS problems such as proctitis, proctocolitis, and enteritis as "sexually transmitted gastrointestinal syndromes."<33> Many of the bacterial and protozoa pathogens that cause gbs are found in feces and transmitted to the digestive system: According to the pro-homosexual text Anal Pleasure and Health, "exual activities provide many opportunities for tiny amounts of contaminated feces to find their way into the mouth of a sexual partner . . . The most direct route is oral-anal contact."<34> Homosexuality is disgusting, it is against the law of nature and god, it kills. Anyone who promotes that homosexuality is ok has an alternative adgenda as it is clearly detrimental to the body, mind & soul. A good quote which I can not remember the reference for regarding homosexuality was comparing hetrosexuality to homosexuality, living a hetrosexual lifestyle was in accordance to a car operating manual, using the human body as it was designed as in driving down the road within the speed limit, but for homosexuality, he refered it as hitching a plow to the car and plowing a field, very quickly the gearbox gives out, the axle breaks, the engine blows and the car becomes useless very quickly. This is what practicing homosexuality does, it is a quick path to the grave.

pierre26- 10-06-2007

well i have a friend that is gay he told his story when he was a baby his mother left him in the hospital and she left to the US he lives in PR in his 18 birthday he ask his grandparents to set up a metting with his mother after they made up their diference his mom ask him to go with her to see his other 3 brothers,the dad is the same dad of my friend and guess what is other 3 brothers are gay like him his mother loves man and his dad loves women i dont belived that being gay is a choise only when people go gay for pay.

Vehcklox- 10-15-2007
Re: People "choosing" to be gay
According to some people homosexuals chose to be gay. Is that any more true than saying that left-handed people chose to be left-handed? For some, homosexuality is not a choice, because they were born with a physiologically altered body due to karma. With sincere work and petition, however, it might be possible for them to restore themselves and perform kundalini yoga, heterosexually. Otherwise, only the alchemy of pranayama is available. Though no instance of this is known that is how rare it is. Where it is a choice, the person may be influenced by demoniacs, their own ego, karma or otherwise as an emotionally manipulative influence. Homosexuality, especially anal sodomy is very harmful to one's genetics/karma and spiritual bodies, and produces teneberous vibrations, when that powerful creative energy is mixed with excrement.

TheATA1- 10-15-2007

With sincere work and petition, however, it might be possible for them to restore themselves and perform kundalini yoga, heterosexually. Do not spout performing good works = salvation, salvation is only achieved by believing in Jesus Christ, performing good works is a result of believing in Jesus Christ. Do you believe in reincarnation? because your mentioning of being born gay because of past life karma shows you do not believe in Jesus and Vehcklox you will goto hell for believing this, for what you say here and believe is in direct opposition to what god says.

DPRK- 10-15-2007

You're both fucking loony.

Vehcklox- 10-15-2007

With sincere work and petition, however, it might be possible for them to restore themselves and perform kundalini yoga, heterosexually. Do not spout performing good works = salvation, salvation is only achieved by believing in Jesus Christ, performing good works is a result of believing in Jesus Christ. Do you believe in reincarnation? because your mentioning of being born gay because of past life karma shows you do not believe in Jesus and Vehcklox you will goto hell for believing this, for what you say here and believe is in direct opposition to what god says. I have answered all of these points before very thoroughly, in truth, scripture and personal experience. I will not sit here and beat a dead horse. Anyone who wants to know, will dig through my posts.