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Dr. Phelps- 11-02-2006

Yes but based on the rings and what they do then GP+SCF are much more effective wouldn`t you say ? ALEX came up with the rings but now he has something better.. this does not get you interested ? I myself has seen improvements with the rings and so have many others, GP+SCF must be much more effective.. Jc, I have a pair of rings and they dont do anything for me. So my personal experience, along with research done into magnets and health, leads me to believe the rings do nothing. Why do you think Gorgeouspil is so much better? Because Alex says so? That doesnt convince me. The man refused to post his photo ever since he released the product. Doesnt that seem suspicious to you? Do you know how Alex "invented" Gorgeouspil? He smelled herbs he thought would work, consumed them, and then stayed on a bed until he thought he felt something. Does this seem like a product you would be willing to pay monthly for based on his methods of research?

gsm- 11-02-2006

I dont have too many prejudices. Ive tried many of the things mentioned on this board. I have an open mind. I just dont want to believe in them so much that I manufacture results in my mind. The latest thing I tried is glyconutrients. It has many skeptics but I thought I would give it a try anyway. I only buy from places with money back guarantees so after I saw it didnt work I got all my money back. Less shipping of course. I dont think western medicine knows all either. Its still fairly primitive. Still, it is measurably getting better as time goes on and certainly is better than magic amulets, rings, pills and other new age things with make believe results. Also, anytime a product explains itself by bringing up quantum physics that is always a red flag. Many of the new age scam products use quantum physics as an explanation because there is no way to test that claim. So its an easy cover for them. Hi Dr . Phelps :) do you have any product you like ? i`have search internet for all kind of helth products , and i have products for almost everything . my wife and me are trying this rings now , start to day my wife feel pain in neck and me in the stomach only after 2 hours ? i made my own with magnets for 5$ she have whiplash ... This is no proof that ring works but i belive that can be some surprise . I belive more in this ring than Alex , feels like he is not to be thrust i read everywere on internet that he don`t send rings to people .. BAD BAD Alex ............. Unfortunatly I really havent found any alternative product, that isnt already well known and understood how it works, that meets up to the makers claims. I will keep searching hmm ... okey .. but take only one product CS colloidal silver ..I have use this for many things .. i have silver generator so i can use this at home ..Food poising 1 hour to get cured .Diabetes wound 1-5 month to cure . burn pain and blister gone only one hour ..Cold about 70% cured day after ... this is what i have tried this for + more sorry to say but i can`t live without colloidal silver i`am safe to many problems with this + my family.

jc- 11-02-2006

But Dr Phelps, could it be that some PEOPLE are different from OTHERS ? the rings work for some and for other it might take a while ? You cannot talk for everyone based on your experience. There are HAIRLOSS products out there that work for some and for others it does not do a thing, this is the same situation.

bocor- 11-02-2006
MONOATOMICS
once the alchemical process is started, they only start with gold after it is transformed to the monoatomic state,i no longer quantifies as gold.i t then takes on the quantum properties i spoke about so there is no danger of toxicity only possible unknown dangers of manipulating quantum mechanics.Personally the rings gave me more energy but i think they eventually caused some heavy metal toxicity from my fillings and my body couldnt handle the detox iknew this because every time i used the rings i experienced more symptoms of toxicity....it took me over 1 year after i had all my mercury fillings removed from a biological dentist that i am clean.....i belive the rings can work to some extent but there are many things that increase circulating chi....i do believe a good trace mineral program should be a foundation of anyones health regimen as minerals work together to create enzyme function in cells and minerals also produce vitamins IN the body and create homeostasis as well as healthy alkine levels,brain chemical balance etc....Also dont forget good fats to ensure mineral assimilation like cod liver oil and high vitamin butter oil.....anyone wanting to learn more about ORMUS should join the white-gold discussion list which has many veterans....another good site is tibetan-gold.com

bocor- 11-02-2006
ORMUS
one more thing about ormus effects.....your experience will bemore profound based on the acid/alkaline balance of your body...more alkaline the greater the effects of ormus, more acid, more ormus you will need for the same effect

Dr. Phelps- 11-02-2006

You cannot talk for everyone based on your experience. I said "my personal experience, along with research done into magnets and health" We could go on forever about this. You can say only a few people get these wonderful benefits and for others it takes years but I dont believe it. Ive been given no reason to believe that. I have never seen any evidence that they work and there is no evidence that they do. JC you could give people sugar pills and tell them they could do miracles and many of those people would report all sorts of good things about them. It is proof of NOTHING. There will ALWAYS be people who believe what they hope to be true no matter what product, real or fake, they try.

Anonymous- 11-02-2006

Phelps you seem to be consumed with the idea that everything must be a placebo effect. I've tested the rings along with a dozen other things and found some to have positive effects and some not to do a damn thing. I can tell the difference. For instance, apple cider vinegar doesn't do anything. No positive effects, while on the other hand colloidal silver works every time I use it, without fail. The rings and other magnetic products are the same way, and the Zynergy and White Powder Gold actually do something. If all these things were just powdered sugar, I would be able to tell.

Dr. Phelps- 11-02-2006

Jimmy, Of course all those positive effects arent measurable. Very convenient. You have been caught up in this fantasy for a very long time along with the others. You will never let it go. Even if Alex Chiu himself came out and said he was wrong very many here would hang on to the idea. You say you would be able to tell if it was placebo effect. The very idea of placebo effect is that you can NOT tell the difference. How many other things like this have you chased after? How much money wasted? Where will it end? Having your mind create effects in the body is nothing to be ashamed of. Its not an insult to claim it. Its happened to all of us.

CerealRapist- 11-02-2006

Phelps you seem to be consumed with the idea that everything must be a placebo effect. I've tested the rings along with a dozen other things and found some to have positive effects and some not to do a damn thing. I can tell the difference. For instance, apple cider vinegar doesn't do anything. No positive effects, while on the other hand colloidal silver works every time I use it, without fail. The rings and other magnetic products are the same way, and the Zynergy and White Powder Gold actually do something. If all these things were just powdered sugar, I would be able to tell. Jimmy, name something that "works" that you didn't spend a lot of money on.

Zazaban- 11-02-2006

Sounds like drugs.... :shock: