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jc- 10-17-2007
MIRACLES / VISIONS..
Its all over the net and newspapers.- What do you think ? Pope John Paul II and the bonfire near the town of his birth Now this fiery figure - photographed in a bonfire in Poland - is being hailed as Pope John Paul II making an appearance from beyond the grave. Dressed in robes, slightly hunched and his right hand raised in blessing, the image appeared during a ceremony to mark the second anniversary of the pontiff's death. The photograph has since been shown repeatedly on Italian television, and a religious website displaying the image crashed as thousands logged on to see it for themselves. The bonfire was lit during a service on April 2, at Beskid Zywiecki - near the Holy Father's birthplace in Wadowice, southern Poland. Hundreds attended the ceremony and Polish cameraman Gregorz Lukasik captured the image on his new camera. He contacted Father Jarek Cielecki, director of Rome's Vatican News Service and a close friend of John Paul II, who then travelled to Poland himself. Mr Lukasik said: "It was only afterwards when I got home and looked at the pictures that I realised I had something. "I showed them to my brother and sister and they, like me, were convinced the flames had formed the image of Pope John Paul II. "There is a tongue of flame to one side which resembles his right arm raised as if giving a blessing. "I was so happy with the picture that I showed it to our local bishop who said that Pope John Paul had made many pilgrimages during his life and he was still making them in death." Feel free to post anything relating to Miracles and VISIONS.

frank2008- 10-17-2007

Obviously cult members' counsciousness shaped the flame by psychic energy.

jc- 10-17-2007

yes, of course.. :roll:

Vehcklox- 10-17-2007
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I've been experiencing minor miracles at work, and have had paranormal experienced with the use of spell magick. Long ago, before I found the doctrine, I once cursed an ex girlfriend who treated me horribly. She complained she'd fallen down the stairs, kept bumping into things, tripping and somehow hurting herself in general. Her car would not start for her, but it would always for someone else, and her household appliances would regularly break down on her. The more courage it seems I show in propogating the doctrine I've shared with you, the more these things happen. Usually though it happens when I'm in a precarious situation with someone who doesn't like me or I have to choose to share what I believe openly. Someone at my last job wanted to shoot me with a bb gun, as they do to slack off all the time, and lost all will to do so even though I yielded myself to take hits voluntarily. When I opened my mouth to criticize a co-worker for sitting on his inventory cart, calling it the 'brokeback buggy', to imply he was gay, soon the supervisor came over from the far side of the warehouse and roughed him up while the cart fell on him, as if in-step to what I had said. I said: "I told you so", and he was like: "now THATS funny", it was hillarious. One time, one of my co workers noticed I wasn't getting along with someone whose wife just died of cancer. It was nothing personal. So they approached me in a threatening tone, and when I spoke with sympathy for the man, relating my story of how I lost somoene to cancer, as if out of nowhere the guy who lost his wife just showed up from the back room to yell at me. The situation was reversed as if to my exoneration and I was left alone. Some of this is more subject to speculation than not, some of it isn't. The gist I get is that thought, words, and the harnessing of energy which I do now are the catalysts for creating reality, very corporeally, and this must be treated with the utmost respect.

TheATA1- 10-17-2007

I can not see how the fire looks like the pope, sure the outline of the fire looks like the outline of an old man, but flames flicker like that. I am concerned about your use of magic, you seem to have no regard to the word of god. You should not use magic nor curse people. ev 19:14 Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a stumblingblock before the blind, but shalt fear thy God: I am the LORD. Thou shalt not curse, it is wrong to curse people. Lev 20:27 A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them. You said you used magic or "magick" both are the same, if you are a man and use magic, you are a wizard, and the bible says wizards shall be put to death. http://www.sidroth.org/site/News2?abbr=tv_&page=NewsArticle&id=6767&security=1041&news_iv_ctrl=1141 New show out about Earthquake kelly, he practiced voodoo and magic and went to hell, lucky he didn't fully die, will tell you what hell is like. I feel sorry for the man, when he was in the mothers womb his parents tried to abort him and the father used to beat his wife to force an abortion. Everyone must watch this video, it is brand new, just released. It is amazing, this guy knew how to Astral project and also go into different realms, he sent curses onto christians and the deamons came back and said they can't do it, so he astral projected and saw these christians were guarded by angels. Please everyone, it is very interesting and enjoyable to watch. Please post in this thread if you have seen it. Velochlox please give up your witchcraft practices.

Vehcklox- 10-17-2007
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I am concerned about your use of magic, you seem to have no regard to the word of god. You should not use magic nor curse people. It was only after 8 years of complete misery that I even considered daring to. I had no practical experience with pranayama to dissolve my sins before then, and didn't understand how to free myself from negative emotions, I was just a Fundamentalist Christian with a working knowledge of divine forces. I had great respect for the use of the word, and I still do very strongly. It is with infinite patience that I treated the woman, and the curse itself was clearly said in the hope of teaching her a lesson, not causing harm. She admitted very clearly that she never knew how much she had hurt people until then. She even has remorse, vain witch that she is. (she is a practicing witch) Nevertheless, because she is a witch, what does the bible say? Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. My actions were far less severe than what the law requires. My own heart has ever been toward the Christian faith. Thou shalt not curse, it is wrong to curse people. I do not deny, this is most certainly true, nevertheless the golden rule says to treat those around you as you would want to be treated. If I were as ignorant as that woman, I would definately want to be shown the error of my ways, lest I dig a hole so deep for myself I could never get out of it. I am grateful for her, without her I might never have seen the depth of my own sin, and it might not have been destroyed. Therefore, in her wrong, she taught me the errors in me as well. Her evil was made for me a way to righteousness, which made her wrong a work of good. I assume my actions took on the same role. The lord is a good judge, he knows my heart, he knows my heart is not the heart of a wizard, but is the heart of a chaste theurge who renders to God what is his. She also cursed me in the past, but I've forgiven her. You said you used magic or "magick" both are the same, if you are a man and use magic, you are a wizard, and the bible says wizards shall be put to death. Moses was not stoned for the white magick of the rod turned serpent, cast by his own hand. Do not confuse the word magick with wizardry of the profane. Both blessing and prayer are no less magick. The right hand (the sun) adjoins with the left hand (the moon) in spirit, a symbol of the alchemical union between the man and woman. What I did was an evil, yet it was in the spirit of love and genuine concern tainted by dark entrapment. I repented, I am forgiven no doubt. You want to stone me? There are people all around this board, looking at the stones with your name on them for being a false teacher. Pick up a stone my friend. Had men never done any evils, they would not know what is good, thus the purpose of life. There is knowledge in evil, there is life in righteousness. Everyone must fall from the tree of life into evil in order to acquire the tree of knowledge, then they must renounce evil in order to ascend back through the tree of life to achieve mastery. It is no mistake, nor accident that the fall of man occurred, it is a necessary matter of course. Without knowledge, our spirits are simple lemmings of nature, without cognizance, without growth. God wills that we not only be perfect, but grow in cognizance of him and of ourselves, like blind men, who, having been stricken blind then further develop faculties of hearing, memory and imagination. (to use a parable, as an analogy) knew how to Astral project and also go into different realms, he sent curses onto christians and the deamons came back and said they can't do it, so he astral projected and saw these christians were guarded by angels. Please everyone, it is very interesting and enjoyable to watch. Please post in this thread if you have seen it. There are holy magicians, prophets, christs, angels, and Gods. There are also black magicians, false prophets, demons and devils. Just because someone enters into the astral, has nothing to do with whether they are evil. Velochlox please give up your witchcraft practices. Long ago, before I found the doctrine I do not practice witchcraft, I lost my patience, stretched too thin for far too long, and since long before then as well. Your condemnation of just words elsewhere on this board is a witchcraft, that you may not realize. For every word you are judged, because with every word you create as well. All words are not of God, but all words are given his power, for his children are all the children of the earth. My other experiences were purely unsolicited, I imagine they happened as a natural consequence because of my accumulation of vital forces through alchemy, or by being assisted by the divine in order to evangelize. Behold I have nothing to hide, I even do my dirty laundry in public.

TheATA1- 10-17-2007

Moses was not stoned for the white magick of the rod turned serpent, cast by his own hand. That was not magic, it was divine intervention by god, it was not magic, all magic is satanic.

Vehcklox- 10-17-2007
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Moses was not stoned for the white magick of the rod turned serpent, cast by his own hand. That was not magic, it was divine intervention by god, it was not magic, all magic is satanic. God has no form, therefore what intervenes? No graven image can be made of him. God is a series of collective, intelligent forces, illustrated in the kabbalah. For it is said God is omniscient. If God is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent. What is omnipresent? God is everywhere, and God is in all. part of that collective, intelligent force, is magick, the force of the holy spirit You blaspheme when you say all magic is satanic. The triangle of magic is the triangle of the priesthood, that triangle (Hod, Netzach, Yesod) is related to the third primary force, which I explained in another post is Binah, the holy spirit. The forces of magick are of the holy spirit. They are most holy and not profane, but in the works of evil ones, are profaned. The gifts of the holy spirit, are no less magick. Superlative magick, not demonic, sacred not profane. The gifts of the holy spirit are abilities, are they not? While gifts, yet they are not an intercession, they are under the direct service of those utilizing them. All of this semantics for nothing. If I put a half glass of water in front of you, is it half full or half empty? Semantics. There is nothing Satan can do or have which is not just a perversion of what God has already created. The force of magick is not exempt. A genuine holy magician always consults the lord who is within, having known him, for permission, before performing an act of theurgy. Does it matter whether I call it "magick", or the "holy spirit", or the "living woowoo"? It is a power, power can be used in the right way or the wrong way. It can be developed in the right way or the wrong way also.

jc- 10-17-2007

ATA wrote: I can not see how the fire looks like the pope, sure the outline of the fire looks like the outline of an old man, but flames flicker like that. To me it does look like the pope and to have this image appear on fire on the day of his death anniversary near the town of his birth is very credible.. You obviously dont believe in miracles ATA.

TheATA1- 10-17-2007

JC it is just the say as all the crying catholic mary statues, it's all lies. JC and Velchlox, did you watch the video I posted, that is truely a miracle, if you have not seen it, please do.

jc- 10-17-2007

hmm, let me see - If yo dont believe in miracles then what kind of believer are you ? This means you dont believe in Jesus who can appear before you and perform a miracle. No, i told you before i dont click links you post nor take advice from you..

eldard- 10-17-2007

Obviously cult members' counsciousness shaped the flame by psychic energy. And we only have your imagination for reference. :roll:

jc- 11-02-2007

JESUS appears: PHOENIX, AZ -- Apparition's of Jesus have appeared on walls and in chapels. Now, in Arizona, a patient at a dentist's office says he sees one on an x-ray. The dentist, and staff at a Phoenix dentist's office agree that the x-ray contains an image resembling Jesus. The patient came in for a routine exam on Tuesday and when the x-ray was developed, he saw the image of Jesus. The patient describes himself as a devout Christian, but says he's never before seen Jesus in an x-ray. By the way, the patient's exam was perfect. Link: http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/usworld/news-article.aspx?storyid=28783 ================ Jesus appears in BATHROOM and TOAST http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44986 (7 News) - The image some say shows Jesus Christ appeared on a platform wall at Waverton railway station in Sydney. Photo: 7News (Mon 08 Jan, 06:45 PM) This is real ? http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2007/angusassjesus-p1.php

jc- 11-22-2007

JESUS APPEARS, Jesus appeared to me on the 21st just 2 days ago the day before thanksgiving, appeared just outside my window on a wooden fence, it was also raining that day.. I see his face often almost everywhere.. Here is the picture:

TheATA1- 11-23-2007

I see his face often almost everywhere, my faith has grown stronger, i think he appears to me because i have been paying more attention to the Bible lately.. Good to hear JC! My job it to tell people about Christ, wether they do or not believe that is the holy spirits job. Seeing Jesus in toast and other things is abit too Roman Catholic for me, but each to their own.