Message about LOBSANG from Joannie's DAD!
Hi I am Joannie's. Lobsang before leaving gave me his password to post the follow that I wrote. Please read.
Yes well this is Joannie’s Dad. I always check on her computer to see what she is doing so I have been following this thing for a long time. In fact actually Joannie has been watching the forums for a long time. Before she ever posted. And I have even spoken to Lobsang personally. So I know the true facts. So I thought now that Lobsang is gone I would reveal them.
First of all lets under stand one thing clearly. It was Lobsang that destroyed the forums. Not Jimmy. It was all Lobsang’s doing. He just sucked Julian into it. And in fact Jimmy into it. But without getting into the details which we all know. Lobsang crippled both forums. This is fact. But that is water under the bridge.
Now basically how did Lobsang find the forum in the beginning? Well if you go back and look at it historically he was upset and all that. So he was just looking for a place to talk. But I can tell you that Lobsang being a doctor and his life being ruined and him being hopeless is 100% true. This is fact. But this to is water under the bridge.
Now we come to Julian. And all these actusations that Lobsang is just using him and all that. Or does not care. Or gives bad advice. All that. Let us examine the true facts. The facts are that Julian was complaining and asked Lobsang what to do. Lobsang recommended some laboratory tests. Regular standard medical tests like any doctor would. Nothing weird. And I think he gave some suggestions as far as neurological testing too. But what did Julian do? Well he argued and came up with a myriad of reasons why he did not need the tests.
Now remember Lobsang has practiced for many years. So instead of arguing with Julian he simple reiterated his position and stopped. But then Julian pressed him so Lobsang told him that he could try upper cervical chiropractic which Lobsang believes in. So Julian asks Lobsang who to go to. Lobsang does a lot of research and comes up with some names and they settle on this guy that Lobsang calls “the Cow”. Now the cow was an experienced doctor with decades of experience and was nationally known as being excellent. So Julian called the cow and found out what the price was. And the cow was totally honest and said the price was a bit steep but there would not be many visits.
So now Julian goes on this big search because he is so cheap with money. He starts price shopping. Well one thing leads to another and Julian ends up pleading wiith this young doctor to dee him for cheap. In fact Lobsang even contacted the doctor personally and asked for professional courtesy for Julian. So Dr Ricky cut his fee. But remember Dr Ricky has only been out of school a short time. But Julian signed up despite the fact that Lobsang told him to go to the cow. And the only reason Lobsang went along with Dr Ricky was that he realized that Julian would never get the correction unless he got a “deal”.
So hey if you are a cheapskate and go to someone that has little experience comparatively do not put it on Lobsang if you are not satisfied. Rememer it was Julian that did not listen to Lobsang’s recommendations and always beeged Lobsang for “other” solutions. Each time Lobsang recommened something Julian argued and eneded up doing something else. Something possible similar but not what Lobsang said to do. This was true with nutritional advice as well. Lobsang said to take something and Julian would take what Julian wanted. Lobsang recommended blood tests and Julian did what he wanted. Lobsang recommended someone and Julian begged for someone else. So this is how it went. But I can tell you that at no time was Lobsang “messing” with Julian.
In fact Julian was getting advice that would cost him a substantial amout of money.
Now Julian for example would ask Lobsang why the drugs he took could cause his problems. Lobsang gave him answers that were in every medical text. But Julian just kepts asking over and over.
So basically every time Lobsang advised something it was never done. What was done was what Julian wanted to do. Lobsang simpley supported those decisions when he realized that it was futile to do otherwise. So that is the deal with the medical stuff. Just remember what Lobsang’s actually recommendatins were. They were laboratory testing. Seeing certain specialtists. Then when Julian argued Lobsang recommended trying upper cervical with a man with decades of experience.
You know Julian would ask Lobsang what supplement to take. Lobsang told him a few times. But each time Lobsang was met with a bunch of reasons why his recommendations were wrong. Or at least why Julian was going to do something different.
Now moving forward. Remember Lobsang is substantially older than most people here. The facts are that I know that Lobsang is truthful when he makes his claims. So asume for a second that he is telling the truth. We have a guy that is highly educated and had a lot of success. But above and beyond that a guy who rose a child, owned propety and did all kinds of adult things. Like being responsible and exciting things too. But above all that he was a CONTRIBUTER to society. So Lobsang has had life experience that Julian has not and Alex has not. But mnany on this forum will. I mean having a family, a life and being a contributer to really helping people.
I mean while Julian and Alex have spent their lives in strip clubs and trying to “make money”. Lobsang was seeing patients, dealing with the realities of a very sick child and much more. So Lobsang despite of his current situation has lived a fully textured life. The other have not. Now I am sure many will. But I think you guys do not look at the big picture.
Now I have spoken to Lobsang manuy times. And Lobsang has simply realized that interaction with Julian is a dead end. It just goes nowhere. Just back to the same old thing. Just nonsense. Now that does not mean that Julian is not a good person but his life is shallow. Too shallow for Lobsang to relate to him anymore. It was jun for a while. But there is no substance to the relationship. Lobsang’s friends are people who really experience life. Things like want a famil and kids. Talk about serious stuff and are in life for real. This is not Julian or Alex. They are shallow. I mean the stripper stuff, ripping people off. And Julaian does have questionable business eithics. Alex does to. These are not the typer of people that Lobsang considers friends in the long term.
I mean not returning money and just the shallow lifestyle. This is not Lobsang. It was a diversion for him but it is over now. Because Lobsang must move on. Because Lobsang wants friends that really have lives and want to help others. Like have kids, take care of then, give to charity and homeless and all that. Really have lives. Not this shallow repeditive world of Julian and Alex. I mean nothing changes. They are totally withount any real life goals. And real life goals are having a family, watching your kid born, taking car of each other, helping people and all that. Not the shallow lifestyle.
I mean the bottom line is that even though Lobsang messes around the truth is that he has nothing in common with Julian. In real life Lobsang would tire of Julian and Alex real fast. It is just too shallow.
Now Julian’s redeeming value is that he is a “peacemaker” and that is good. He is forgiving and can be a nice guy. Hooowever you have to look into the motives for this and they are ALL ABOUT JULIAN. Hey what was one of Lobsang’s main recommendations? Well I will tell you. Lobsang told Julian to give some money to charity and do some things to help people. Like volunteer. But alas that was quickly dismissed.
So the deal is that Lobsang might seem mean sometimes and Julian might seem nice. However. The bottom line os that Losang would give you money if you were homeless and Juliabn would let you freeze. Julian is selllllfish and he wants no real relationship with a woman. It is always “how tall are you?” “What do you look like?”. In other words “What can you do for me?”. He has no depth what so ever and views people as commodities. Especially women. And Julian has never done on lick of real work in his life. Had no responsibility. And folks responsibility is like pacing the hospital floor when your child is in surger. Or fending to keep you lights on. Or dealing with real crisis. Not the shallow world of Julian and Alex. Or Franco for that matter.
I mean Lobsang is tired of just the shallowness. There is just nothing important that there is to talk about. I man look at it this way. Julian and Alex have shallow lives, don’t want kids really, do nothing productive for society despite the fact that they are in a position to. I mean you talk about losers. Now I do not mean that Julian could not pull himself out of this. Maybe he could. But at this point he is not the kind of person Lobsang would be real friends with. I man in real life what would they talk about? I mean Julaian lives in denial about everything and just is not at a point where he wants any real life.
Now Julian is a likable guy. But let me try and explain. For example you raise a little girl and the little girl learns to do certain behaviors to be accepted or for gain. So she says “I love you” or looks cute and all that. But it in some cases is not genuine. They are just learned skills for self gain. This is how Lobsang sees Julians “niceness”. Because the bottom line is that Julian ain’t all that nice. He is totally selfish. Now maybe someday he will change and maybe he will not.
And as far as the mental stuff. Yes Julian displays on the forum marked bipolarity. But Lobsang really does not susbscribe to drugs usually but sees these conditions as being related to immature personality development in most cases. But based on Lobsangs observations Julian has deep seated problems that he just will not confront and resolve. But that is what life is about. Fixing these things. But Julian reuses any progress what so ever.
Hey you know Lobsang’s frinds in life do not see women as comodaties. Have shallow relationships. I mean what the fuck are all these dealings with Gwen, Sierra and all that. Christ. Get a life. Have some depth to relationships. And the kind of friends Lobsang considers are people with responsibility. Like kids, helping people and all that. But all Julian and Alex are about are themselves.
So no Lobsang is finished. He died. He just was in it for a while but became board and a bit angry at the shallowness and selfishness. I mean it is just the same thing over and over that never changes. Nothing.
Now lastly. Lets understand this. Lobsang has lived a very deep life. He has made many mistakes. But what life is about is your full integration as a person. To understand your full self. Many parts are hidden. It is like putting together a puzzle. Now Lobsang despite his losses is integrated. It took a lot of pain to get that way. Or at least to make significant progress. But Lobsang sees the current situation with Julian as just too stuck. I mean enough is enough.
Julian or Alex do not have a glimmer what love is. Or what a relationship is. Or what responsibility is. Or to know any depth to existence. It is very sad. I mean the shallow relationships the percieve with people. Like Rayanna, Gwen, Sierra, strippers and all that. The fact is that in a real situation like having a child or dealing with real humaity both Julian and Alex would wet their pants out of fear. These are not the kinds of friends Lobsang wants. Or at least he wants them to be trying to make some progress and Julian is not. Not with what Lobsang considers valuable goals that will expand their integration or humanity.
So no actually Julian is not all that nice a person when you examine it in depth. Very selfish and shallow. Hopefully someday he will expand but I am pessimistic. And to Lobsang Alex is a complete loser. Money or not. Same with Julian. This because of their lack of any real humanity or depth of it.
So in any event Lobsang will not be back and no he will not be posting under another name and all that. It is just too stupid. It was fun for a while and he wishes everyone well and sincerely hopes Julian will become a real person. That he finds all his parts.
Take care!
i have tears in my eyes, this made me understand what wonderfull person you really are Lobsang, and how much passion you put in yout friendship with SacJb.
Now , please , KILL YOURSELF
Lobsang, wear Rings, take GP and post your testimonial. That will make you really interesting for us.
Re: Message about LOBSANG from Joannie's DAD!
First of all lets under stand one thing clearly. It was Lobsang that destroyed the forums. Not Jimmy. It was all Lobsang’s doing. He just sucked Julian into it. And in fact Jimmy into it. But without getting into the details which we all know. Lobsang crippled both forums. This is fact. But that is water under the bridge.
I wouldn't give you that much credit buddy.
It seems like there's a debate as to who is more evil, Lobsang or Sacjb.
Lobsang doesn't like to feel evil, so he projects it onto other people who have questionable motives like Alex.
I never could have meaningful relationships with people. I never had a good guy friend to hang out with. And I only had one girlfriend, and she was more like my pal. I'm usually alone. I'm an internal person, but that doesn't always make one shallow.
It just means that there are areas where one is underdeveloped. Like Alex. He has these shallow relationships with women, but has a keen sense of smell. He also can touch glass and see the true meaning of dreams. He has highly developed senses in some respects, and to the benefit of mankind!
The only relationship I have is with an avatar. It doesn't get any more shallow than that.
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/5166/cola2sm5.jpge
wow! i can't believe i read this! this has to lobsang! right guys?
yes it is lobsang.
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the difference between me and lobsang is that I at least try to tell u what really is going on with me. but he seems to always be a different character and lie all the time. Maybe since Lobsang is gone, I can start treating people on the forum better. I don't have to do what he wants me to do. But is he right in what he said in that message from Joannie's dad?
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wow. i never realized how crazy lobsang was. maybe he really never did care to help me.
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wow. i never realized how crazy lobsang was. maybe he really never did care to help me.
Is there an echo in here?
And yes what Lobsang said is true. You do things for personal gain. You take every opportunity you get and use it to your advantage, no matter who it hurts. Being an opportunist can be a good thing, but not when you do it every chance you get.
wow. i never realized how crazy lobsang was. maybe he really never did care to help me.
He just did help you. You selfish dumb shit.
Joannie's Dad
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the difference between me and lobsang is that I at least try to tell u what really is going on with me. but he seems to always be a different character and lie all the time. Maybe since Lobsang is gone, I can start treating people on the forum better. I don't have to do what he wants me to do. But is he right in what he said in that message from Joannie's dad?
But why would you have to be way from him to treat people with respect. You should do it anyway. You are influenced by other people WAY to easily. And obviously, you want to be the center of attention, no matter how or what it does to other people. I can see you as being a nice guy, but to truly be one, you have to think about other people for a change.
wow. i never realized how crazy lobsang was. maybe he really never did care to help me.
He just did help you. You selfish dumb shit.
Joannie's Dad
Hey. How's the "ruining" people's lives thing you talked about so much coming along?
He's been to the cave. He's been to the mountain. Next is the ocean, then the river, and lastly the hills of satan. Then he can do the rituals and focus his evil into the center after he finishes his root beer.
