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TheATA1- 11-11-2007
*Important* Evidence Dinosaurs AD, proof creation
It’s quite interesting that if dinosaurs died out millions of years ago, there are pictures of dinosaurs on the Ica burial stones which is less than 2,000 years old. It is time to accept god, believing in evolution as a way to distance yourself from your sin is getting old. God exists and you will be held accountable for your sins unless you repent and accept Jesus Christ as savior. All the evidience is there, just how the bible says, man walked with dinosaurs, less than 6,000 years ago.

TwistinUnderSchizophrenia- 11-11-2007

So ummmm...where's the proof?

TheATA1- 11-11-2007

The proof is that dinosaurs did not exist millions of years ago, they existed upto only afew hundred years ago. The inca's were riding them, domesticating them, hunting and eating them. This tract confirms my belief also. http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1038/1038_01.asp More evidence here that people walked with dinosaurs. http://www.bible.ca/tracks/tracks-acambaro-dinos.htm

Makybe_Diva- 11-11-2007

:roll: Did you have any knocks to the head over the weekend?

ivan4iai- 11-11-2007

Let's assume that dinosaurs existed 6,000 years ago. That does not disprove that they existed millions of years ago. How old are the stones in the pictures estimated ATA?

TwistinUnderSchizophrenia- 11-11-2007

I still see no proof. I see page with comics, and a biased Christian page. So, I ask again, where's the proof?

jc- 11-11-2007

Question: "What does the Bible say about dinosaurs? Are there dinosaurs in the Bible?" Answer: The topic of dinosaurs in the Bible is part of a larger ongoing debate within the Christian community over the age of the earth, the proper interpretation of Genesis, and how to interpret the physical evidences we find all around us. Those who believe in an older age for the earth tend to agree that the Bible does not mention dinosaurs, because according to their paradigm, dinosaurs died out millions of years before the first man ever walked the earth. The men who wrote the Bible down couldn’t have seen dinosaurs alive. Those who believe in a younger age for the earth tend to agree that the Bible does mention dinosaurs though it never actually uses the word “dinosaur.” Instead, it uses the Hebrew word tanniyn (pronounced tan-neen; Strong’s #08577). Tanniyn is translated a few different ways in our English Bibles; sometimes it’s “sea monster,” sometimes it’s “serpent.” It is most commonly translated “dragon.”The tanniyn appear to have been some sort of giant reptile. These creatures are mentioned nearly thirty times in the Old Testament and are found both on land and in the water. In addition to mentioning these giant reptiles in general nearly thirty times throughout the Old Testament, the Bible describes a couple of creatures in such a way that some scholars believe the writers may have been describing dinosaurs. Behemoth is said to be the mightiest of all God’s creatures, a giant whose tail is likened to a cedar tree (Job 40:15ff). Some scholars have tried to identify Behemoth as either an elephant or a hippopotamus. Others point out that elephants and hippopotamuses have very thin tails, nothing comparable to a cedar tree. Dinosaurs like the Brachiosaurus and the Diplodocus on the other had huge tails which one could easily compare to a cedar tree. Nearly every ancient civilization has some sort of art depicting giant reptilian creatures. Petroglyphs, artifacts and even little clay figurines found in North America resemble modern depictions of dinosaurs. Rock carvings in South America depict men riding Diplodocus-like creatures and, amazingly, bear the familiar images of Triceratops-, Pterodactyl- and Tyrannosaurus Rex-like creatures. Roman mosaics, Mayan pottery and Babylonian city walls all testify to man’s trans-cultural, geographically-unbounded fascination with these creatures. Sober accounts like those of Marco Polo’s Il Milione mingle with fantastic tales of treasure-hoarding beasts. Modern day reports of sightings persist though they are usually treated with overwhelming skepticism. In addition to the substantial amount of anthropic and historical evidences for the coexistence of dinosaur and man, there are other physical evidences, like the fossilized footprints of humans and dinosaurs found together at places in North America and West-Central Asia. So, are there dinosaurs in the Bible? The matter is far from settled. It depends on how you interpret the available evidences and how you view the world around you that if you can accept that dinosaurs and man coexisted. We believe that dinosaurs died out sometime after the Flood due to a combination of dramatic environmental shifts and the fact that they were relentlessly hunted to extinction by man.

Vehcklox- 11-11-2007
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As it is said by the moderately schooled bible scholars, and as it is written: a day with the lord is as a thousand years. Indeed this is true, but then how long is a year? Our friends here on the board are scratching their heads, and rightly so because all of this fundamentalism and holding onto degenerated traditions flies right in the face of repeated and numerous scientific observations. Whats more, it flies in the face of Christianity's roots, which is Gnosis. Imagine for a moment, that from a mother's womb, a baby was born. The baby grew up not only to shame the mother who gave birth to him, but the father also who wants to teach him logically about his future. Christendom is such a child, spoiled and incapable of recognizing anything but itself. Neither where it came from, neither with intuition, nor with reason. We shouldn't forget that the bible is castrated, the metaphorical referrences and numerological values given in an esoteric fashion are lost due to persecution. Only now our friend, the prophet Samael reveals such things. How do we define what exactly a 'day' is? We know the sun rises and sets, and this is an indication a day has gone by. What about the starts and planets in their rotation? Could particular patterns of cyclical, celestial navigation be considered days as well? In Hinduism the values attributed to times and periods are likewise given such a metaphorical nature, so we see the tradition is preserved. Was the world created 6,000 years ago? Or is this a shallow, half-hearted attempt to put two pieces of an otherwise missing puzzle together and assume it is 'solved'? Could it be possible really that days, inasmuch as the bible can stretch the definition of a day to be a metaphor for years, also are allegorical to the extent of being so according to different calibers of time? The information below definately suggests this: Mahamanvantara: "(Sanskrit) “The Great Day.” A period of universal activity, as opposed to a Mahapralaya, a cosmic night or period of rest. "I was absorbed within the Absolute at the end of that Lunar Mahamanvantara, which endured 311,040,000,000,000 years, or, in other words, an age of Brahma." - The Revolution of Beelzebub "Truthfully, the quantities of years assigned to a Cosmic Day are symbolic. The Cosmic Night arrives when the ingathering of the perfect souls is complete, which means, when the Cosmic Day is absolutely perfected." - from The Pistis Sophia Unveiled

CerealRapist- 11-11-2007

oh, i see. so your one piece of pottery from a creationist website invalidates millions of pieces of evidence that converge on the accepted scientific reality. ATA1, your head is so far up your own ass that you can't see the mountains of shit.

TheATA1- 11-11-2007

Fine I will give you more evidence. Alot of dinosaur tracks have human foot prints in them, most of the dinosaurs were killed during the flood. How long does it take to form sedimentary layers? Charles Officer is a research professor at Dartmouth. In his 1996 book, The Great Dinosaur Extinction Mystery, he says, "...a rate of one centimeter per 1000 years is typical," p.56. But just look and think about this 30 foot fossil tree. It is one of hundreds found near Cookville, TN in the Kettles coal mines which derived their name from the shape of the lower portion of these fossil trees. This tree begins in one coal seam, protrudes upward through numerous layers and finally into another layer of coal. Think about that. What would happen to the top of the tree in the thousands of years necessary to cover it at the rate postulated by Officer. Derek Ager, one of the world’s best known statigraphers, addresses this challenge, acknowledging "...standing trees up to 10 m high in the Lancashire coalfield of north-west England. ...Obviously sedimentation had to be very rapid to bury a tree in a standing position before it rotted and fell down. ...Standing trees are known at many levels and in many parts of the world. ...we cannot escape the conclusion that sedimentation was at times very rapid indeed and that at other times there were long breaks in the sedimentation, though it looks uniform and continuous," The New Catastrophism, 1993, p.49. This was a pregnat dinosaur. An articulated fossil shows the bones of an animal together, connected in the rock as in life. To illustrate, when a cow dies on the open range, within a few weeks, the animal is fully decayed and the bones are scattered over a wide range of area by coyotes etc. Yet, even these individual bones rarely become fossils because small rodents and insects reduce them to powder. "Articulated" skeletons obviously indicate rapid burial. This suggests there was a great flood. This small iron pot was imbedded inside a single lump of coal. Such finds are not unusual, but few are fully certified and documented to be true. Here we have a notarized letter certifying the authenticity of the find. This pot is in the Creation Evidences Museum today, in Glen Rose, Texas. The letter reads: Sulfur Springs Arkansas Nov. 27 - 1948 While I was working in the Municipal Electric Plant in Thomas, Okla. in 1912, I came upon a solid chuck of coal which was too large to use. I broke it with a sledge hammer. This iron pot fell from the center, leaving the impression, or mould of the pot in a piece of the coal. Jim Stull (an employee of the company) witnessed the breaking of the coal, and saw the pot fall out. I traced the source of the coal and found that it came from Wilburton, Okahoma Mines.

TwistinUnderSchizophrenia- 11-11-2007

I thought you said you was going to post more proof? Where is it?

TheATA1- 11-11-2007

Descartes wrote "I think therefore I am", in your case twisting "you do not think, you remain ignorant". Look at the evidence, Alot of those stones are less that 1,000 years old, they have detailed drawings of dinosaurs on them, it is obvious that the dinosaurs did not die out 2 million years ago, it is a lie by the scientists to try to convince everyone of evolution, the reason they will not give up on evolution is because they are stuck in theirs sins and refuse to repent, that is why they do not acknowledge god, they want to keep sinning. Do not be fooled, just because they use big words and wear glasses and write alittle "phd" before their name means nothing, it is something they use to intimidate you to their way of thinking and views about evolution. Jer 8:9 The wise men are ashamed, they are dismayed and taken: lo, they have rejected the word of the LORD; and what wisdom is in them? See these scientists reject Jesus Christ, the bible says that these people have no wisdom in them. Pro 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction. These scientists do not fear god, the bible says these people are fools. The bible says in the last days even seemingly "intelligent" people will become deceived, I believe this foolishness is evolution, it has deceived many people who are regarded as intelligent. Anyone who believes in evolution is a idiot, you certainly are massively stupid, complacent and ignorant to believe in evolution, the bible says you are fools for believing in evolution and not accepting Jesus Christ, well I totally agree with the bible, you are all stupid, I have provided over abundance evidence of god, yet you still refuse to believe, most likely because of your sin, how pathetic...

jc- 11-11-2007

ATA wrote: Fine I will give you more evidence. Alot of dinosaur tracks have human foot prints in them, most of the dinosaurs were killed during the flood LOL... please stop.. im dying here.. OF LAUGHTER.. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: How can you be so Pathetic..? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Damm you are desperate..

TheATA1- 11-12-2007

I can just continue to post evidence and proof constantly, people here are ignorant, they are mockers of the truth. The bible says the end times will be much as were in the days of noah, so people's sins will be as bad as they were in the days of noah. Temple only afew hundred years old, but yet they carved a dinosaur into the artwork, they must have seen them alive. Mexican pottery afew hundred years old. See this shows they had domesticated dinosaurs as pets. This can not be denied any longer, you must believe this, for if you do not you are lying to yourself.

Anonymous- 11-12-2007

You stupid fucking retard.