Immortality?

Immortality?
I think I read some where that Alex said that people will be ressurected (meaning that you will die, but then come back to life) instead of living forever with out dying. Is that true or am I hallucinating what Alex says. I don't remember where I saw it. Thats why I'm asking if it's true or not.

Alex's crazy ass has been talking about inventing something to be able to resurrect people.

Maybe thats what I was thinking of. Thanks Twistin for clearing that up for me. :)

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Not unlike Qigong or Taichi, the rings boast of being able to influence the 'chi-body' to improve health and probably open or draw energy to the person's chi meridians. After having used the rings myself, I do not doubt this. My experience has been they can increase heart rate, and if worn on the wrong polarity they can cause one to feel ill. But can the effect of improving the chi body bring immortality? No, even the Chinese masters who extend their lifespan through a life of dilligent practice can only expect to be in great strength/shape and longevity, but not immortality. There are, however, reputable claims to how someone can achieve immortality. Not just by working with the chi-body, but regenerating the glands, and learning the lost wisdom of the bible, long forgotten with the Gnostics who were persecuted and killed over 2 millenia ago. Check this out, free gnostic videos from Thelema Press.

I see that many people turn to Alex products because they are fed up with western science, but I must admit, if you want immortality, your best bet right now is with western science. it is just a few breakthroughs away from making people live indefinitely. there are many wisdoms lost in the past, but science is learning new wisdoms at such fast rate that it is only a matter of time. best strategy is to try as many things as possible and discard things that don't work, even if conventional science or ancient wisdom says they are correct. if they dont work, they are not correct. this is alex's method, but he seems to have stopped applying it, and is now making all sorts of incorrect claims. so even though alex made good contribution, we need to throw away the incorrect parts, and keep going unitl immortality is achieved. right now, who is applying alex's method? it is western science, but they operate much slower. it takes longer to throw away incorrect things. if you want to beat western science, you need to let go of things faster. do the rings make you immortal? even if it works for few, they clearly don't work for most people, so you need to throw it away if it doesn't work for you.

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To live physically immortal without immortality of the soul, is to be caged to a death that never dies. When the buddha was asked how long he wanted to live, he said 80 years old. When asked why, he responded with: 'because if it was longer, people will covet longevity' (vaguely remembers hearing this story, don't ask me to cite the source)

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To live physically immortal without immortality of the soul, is to be caged to a death that never dies. When the buddha was asked how long he wanted to live, he said 80 years old. When asked why, he responded with: 'because if it was longer, people will covet longevity' (vaguely remembers hearing this story, don't ask me to cite the source) By most accounts, soul is indestructible, so there is no need to make immortal soul ring. Actually, I take this back -- virtual ring is a kind of soul -- it is the soul of a real ring. this is why virtual ring is free from physical defects that a real ring may have.

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Jesus said: "what profit is it for a man to gain the whole world, but lose his own soul"? The second death destroys the soul. All that remains is the man's spirit, the consciousness, but the astral body, the mind, the soul devolves over time. Only a replacement, the new soul is permanant, born of baptism (alchemy, tantra, kundalini yoga).

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Jesus said: "what profit is it for a man to gain the whole world, but lose his own soul"? The second death destroys the soul. All that remains is the man's spirit, the consciousness, but the astral body, the mind, the soul devolves over time. Only a replacement, the new soul is permanant, born of baptism (alchemy, tantra, kundalini yoga). Wait, I don't understand you here isn't the soul, the Astral body and perhaps even the conciousness too? And why are you calling baptism (they aren't just a ritual like that of the christian church)?

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Jesus said: "what profit is it for a man to gain the whole world, but lose his own soul"? The second death destroys the soul. All that remains is the man's spirit, the consciousness, but the astral body, the mind, the soul devolves over time. Only a replacement, the new soul is permanant, born of baptism (alchemy, tantra, kundalini yoga). Wait, I don't understand you here isn't the soul, the Astral body and perhaps even the conciousness too? And why are you calling baptism (they aren't just a ritual like that of the christian church)? The soul is the astral body, the mind. The spirit is just the consciousness itself. As the consciousness begins it evolves through the mineral, plant, and animal kingdoms to grow the soul through evolution. Baptism as a ritual is an exoteric symbol for esoteric baptism which is chaste coitus. Based on the verses below, the only possible conclusion is that kundalini yoga is the only sexually permissible practice allowed by Judeo-Christian religion, and it's not just a ritual, it serves many physio-spiritual functions which transform men into angels who either rise or fall as depicted by Jacob's ladder: 1 Corinthians 7:9-16 "For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife?" So we see that there is a relationship between salvation and marriage, eluding to sex. How does a spouse save the other? Saved by baptism and belief (belief = acknowledgement + action). 1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. Leviticus 15:16 When a man has an emission of semen, he must bathe his whole body with water, and he will be unclean till evening. 1 Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders. 1 Corinthians 6:19 “Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.” John 4:7-18 A Samaritan woman is asked by Jesus for water. Jesus offers her living water from which she will never thirst, which will "become in them a spring of water welling up to eternal life". The woman says "sir give me this water" Jesus's only answer to her was for her to go call her husband. Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge because thou hast rejected knowledge I will also reject thee that thou shalt be no priest to me seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God I will also forget thy children Without knowledge God rejects you. Genesis 4:1 "And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord." Here when it says Adam "knew" it is referring to sex. Knowledge in the bible is associated directly with sex. Luke 11:52 "Woe to you lawyers! For you took away the key of knowledge. You didn't enter in yourselves, and those who were entering in, you hindered"Through varying types of fear or greed men take away the esoteric side of religion, and the knowledge thereof. John 7:37 "He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water" So not only does the living water well up in someone to eternal life, it also comes out from the belly..., which in Qigong is known as the lower dan-tien, a gathering place for chi energy, but is also where the prostate is located, which houses the sexual energy. It "wells up to eternal life" by way of the spine, whereupon it is transmuted into a different type of energy. Thus water becomes wine, lead becomes gold. Matthew 19:12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. Last, a reading from the once lost Gospel of Thomas: from the lost Gospel of Thomas (Nag Hammadi Library): "Jesus said to them, "When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter ." I've taken this to mean Jesus is outlining the process to create the new soul by means of kundalini yoga between a man and woman.

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The soul is the astral body, the mind. The spirit is just the consciousness itself. As the consciousness begins it evolves through the mineral, plant, and animal kingdoms to grow the soul through evolution. This soul/spirit distinction is like water/ice. They are both components of virtuons so they are the same if you think about it. Virtuons do not exist in the physical world, so they cannot be destroyed either. Because they do not exist in our physical world, it is difficult to prove their existence.

Water and ice is physical.

Water and ice is physical. it is analogy -- how can we think of unreal, unphysical things except in real physical terms, so i compare it to water and ice. water and ice are made of same molecules, same as soul/spirit is made of same virtuons

kundalini yoga is the only sexually permissible practice I thought kundalini yoga was about raising and awakening kundalini energy and that it doesn't have to do with sex.

kundalini yoga is the only sexually permissible practice I thought kundalini yoga was about raising and awakening kundalini energy and that it doesn't have to do with sex. The only way to raise that fire in the base of the spine, is through kundalini yoga. Though there are 2 or 3 ways to recieve prana, the force of christ. (kundalini yoga being the best one) Though there are complimentary excercises which can help to awaken that fire, there really is no other way for it to raise except the stimulus of coitus. Kundalini is not mechanical, the fire will only raise according to the conscious merits of the heart.

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