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I can totally understand 121's anxiety.... But 121, you have to take into consideration your age...Meaning that, at your age, technically your body has not stopped growing yet... Any plastic surgeon will advise you of this...perhaps even turn you down FOR this reason....They'd tell you to wait until you're older, I'd imagine. I understand this worry especially because I have (more or less) the same issue... When I was a child, I was punched in the face so hard it fractured my nose....It didn't break, but since I didn't get medical attention for it, it changed the way it looked.... It resulted in me having an ugly Jennifer Aniston beak...(some people have said I resemble her...I know it was intended as a compliment, but it makes ME UPSET!! IMO, Jennifer Aniston is seriously homely looking!!!) And I'm dead sure that if that incident didn't happen, my nose would have looked differently....So yah, I totally understand what it's like to live life so painfully aware of a feature that's so painfully obvious!!.....But imagine having issues with this when you're 8???? 8 y.o.'s should worry about what breakfast cereal they should have in the morning :lol: NOT how their face looks!!! What I DON'T understand, however, is how you would consider continuing taking alex's stuff as a waste of money and not plastic surgery!! You said doing so (continuing to take Alex Chiu's stuff for 6 mo.) would cost $1,200+ but getting a rhinoplasty would cost $4,000 at least, depending on the extent of work required to fix....(I too consulted with a plastic surgeon, btw). If you require an OPEN rhinoplasty (which I do) it will cost you way, waaaaayyyyyy more....and 1) there's the risk of medical complications 2) Your lifestyle might change; there are many things you can't do....exercise being one of them...(I've made so much progress with the "dreadmill" I can't quit now!! *lol*) you have to live (somewhat) like a disabled while in recovery and the worst 3) From what my plastic surgeon told me, it can take MONTHS (as much as 6) for you to fully notice the results....how the swelling goes down only little by little over a period of months...the speed of healing dependent on the individual..... With that considered, I think it's a much safer bet for me to try Alex Chiu...This being one of the primary reasons, to be perfectly honest. 1) It's a natural alternative 2)I won't get mutilated by a knife, hammer and chisel all in the name of fixing myself, and 3) it's a fraction of the cost!!! Yet I know, in all logic, that any occuring results won't happen overnight....This is only day 4 for me....Not even a WEEK for me yet! I don't really have an opinion on this stuff, nor should I.....just yet. It's too early. So you really have to give it more time....Trust me, I understand how anxious you must be in wanting this stuff to work YESTERDAYYY!!!!!!!! *lol* I understand THAT all TOO well.....

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Its clear to me from the lack of proof and from experience that GP will not make my nose smaller. So I have decided to opt for plastic surgery. I want to have it done this summer in about 6-7 months time. I am 17 years old at present and will be 18 in summer. However the only problem I have is that I don't want my parents or friends to find out I have had it, come post-op in summer. IKNOW you're probably thinking 'what a prick!, ofcourse his parents will realise they've seen him pretty much everyday of his life'. So I have decided to use some make up to make my nose appear smaller and thinner. I think if i start off with little and apply more as I get closer to summer. People will start thinking that my nose has either become smaller or more proportional to my face (probablt the latter). If my parents ask, I can either tell them that naturally my face has enlarged so my nose looks normal, OR that I have been taking GP (which they know about!) and my nose is getting smaller. Only problem I have is raising £4000! A lot for a 17 year old who does not work! Anyway, what do you guys think?I work with this guy who has a big bannana nose and he dosen't seem to mind. Mabey he likes it.

Yah, perhaps for some.....For OTHERS it's agonizing to live with!!

The lord FORGIVES who have sined..

OH fer' crying out loud!!!!! :roll: What about "Thou shalt not judge" Mr. holier than thou??? If this is how you really feel then what ARE you DOING in a message board like this??? There are other places on the net where people.....or should I say "sheeple" share your views and your opinion would be much more welcomed and accepted..... What's so vain about wanting to correct your imperfections?? To want to improve yourself??? NO, a nosejob will not make you any better....not as a person..... NO ONE EVER SAID altering a person's appearance would make you a better person....it's about how it makes you feel.....like....uh....more NORMAL??? How bout NOT like a freak??? Is that too much to ask for??? To have people look at you and actually LISTEN to what you're saying instead of silently fixating on your flaw??? To actually be able to establish EYE CONTACT with other people, instead of being AFRAID of making eye contact in fear that it'll draw attention to your face?? Who the hell are you to deny this to anyone and justify it in the name of religion??? Tsk tsk... :( Oh and get off your soapbox about how GOD all created us "perfect"....so you mean to tell me the 3rd world kids born with cleft palates and other defects are "perfect" and the 'doctors without borders' who correct their faces and defects for free are commiting a sin??? Or people with severe, socially-debilitating acne have nothing wrong and dermatologists are the sinners for wanting to "fix" them??? Even still, so WHAT if it's vanity....you're a christian FORGIVE ME!! :P AND....even if I AM wrong, I have GOD to answer to, NOT YOU Rev. Lovejoy.... Of course you would never understand what it's like to live with a blemish of ANY kind since you're so PERFECT right??? I think the one committing "vanity" is YOU.......masturbating your ego by taking some joy out of making everyone else feel like hideous sinners, hiding behind the name of god....Making yourself feel important by showing everyone how many bible verses you know....You're not impressing anyone, you know....except maybe yourself.... :roll: If there's ever such a thing as coming back in a different life, I sincerely hope you come back with a horrible defect....one you can't hide....one that's.......as plain as the NOSE ON YOUR FACE!!!!! :twisted:

s I appreciate you're replies. and oh yeah ATAO F*CK OFF ! The thing is cactus heart and others I have considered my age I'm almost 18 and about 90% of your nose has already taken size and shape by the time you're 16/17. The thing is it is more expensive than alex chius products and with a nose job I am pretty guaranteed good results, there might be a 0.1% chance of a negative result, whatever! But with Alexs products a may spend $1200 yet still not see a result and before franco and mattissimus come and start ass licking chiu, yeah I might feel results and be spiritually better and all that BS! But it won't help in making my nose smaller, which is why i came here looking for an answer. I mean if it had chiu would have posted a pic by right now,right? I mean if you look at him as a 19 year old, he had a pretty big nose.Surely you can understand where I'm coming from cactus heart, with a nose job i am pretty guaranteed a normal life, no more having a converstaion and people are more interersted in the nose in your face, rather than what you say. also ATAO YOU HAVE A SMALL PENIS, ur mamma told me

He he, ok in a way your right 121ace, plastic surgery guarantees you results where GP+SCF you have to wait and see if any results for sure, by the way ALEX recent post stated he came up with a new ingredient in CF and is very powerful.. not sure but you might just want to try GP+SCF with the NEW ingredient one more time before doing plastic surgery, ALEX stated he saw results within just one day..

Le 21:18 For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous, (Do you have a flat or large nose that needs correcting?) Mr 9:42 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea. (I believe in Jesus, I am not easily offened but you would be wise not to try for in case you might) Oh so are you inferring to us that the bible says it's ok to treat physically unattractive people like freaks?? To reject a person SIMPLY for the way GOD MADE THEM OUT TO LOOK????????????How very intolerant....how ignorant....how very UNchristian-like. Whatever it is Jesus would do, I'm so sure that wouldn't be it.....Don't try and foist your intolerant behavior upon us in the name of christianity....No one here's buying it you know....in case you haven't already noticed.... :roll: However the bible was written, I'd just about guarantee (if I were able) that it was ( particularly the verses you quoted as) either misinterpreted or taken out of context....just like 90% of the bible in general.... If this book is, really and truly, written as a direct dictation from the mouth of god into the hands of man (which are, by god's standards, unfit) how trustworthy is it really? You can't deny, as it's been shown time and again, that portions of it have been added, deleted, rearranged, different versions of the same story.... Furthermore, since no one here speaks hebrew or aramaic (I'd venture to guess you don't either?), there's no way to really know WHAT that book is saying....Even theologians (who DO know hebrew and aramaic) study their whole lives just to be qualified to SPECULATE or are called upon to give their opinion of WHAT THEY THINK something in the bible means....again, open to (mis)interpretation..... I believe, at one time, the bible was a book to be taken with the utmost reverence and seriousness....but over the centuries, it's value lessened as it has been tampered by the hands of men....heh talk about mankind shooting themselves in the foot. Try this quote on for size churchy "The clergy converted the simple teachings of Jesus into an engine for enslaving mankind and adulterated by artificial constructions into a contrivance to filch wealth and power themselves...these clergy, in fact, constitute the real Anti-Christ." Thomas Jefferson

I wouldnt worry about your nose until you get a little older, because your jawline , cheekbones , forehead , etc, are NOT as pronounced as they are going to be in a few more years yet. If you get a nose job now-- your face is going to look wierd when you reach 24-30. I'd wait til 20 years old--, and then get a slight nose job so that the doctor can balance his surgery with the rest of your more mature features. Believe me- in a guy or girl the cheekbones , jawline, etc. do build up more as you continue to grow through your teens into your late 20's. Make sure to get your good oils, like fish oil and raw plant oils, get natural (non rock based) calcium and magnesium as well., and you will see a pleasant difference in your bone structure in a few more years that will balance out your nose more. THEN get the nose job. I'm a 43 female, and my cheekbones have actually grown more pronounced and less flat since I was in my 30's! I don't have to wear contour blush now, because my cheekbones now have a nicer natural chisel to them.

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