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SacJB Shady- 09-01-2008
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but you are the one who goes on the forum saying, alex chiu's a fraud. do you think that is smart?

CerealRapist- 09-01-2008

Yes I do, given the following: - he offers no scientific proof - his so-called 'technology' runs directly contrary to millenia of scientific theory - he claims to have invented a pill that makes you gorgeous but which hasn't changed him at all after 2 years of use - he 'invents' products which require other products of his to use - he has no scientific background beyond cutting fish at a restaurant - he clearly has a diagnosable case of narcissistic personality disorder - personal use of the rings for a month produced absolutely no result he's a f-ucking fraud, and if you ask me, only the naive and desperate think otherwise. sorry!

SacJB Shady- 09-01-2008
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-He was recommended in Kevin Trudeu's book. Hey, kevin sold 5 million. #1New york times bestseller. Did you? -His gorgeouspil has changed him if you look at forever young video vs the new videos, he is getting more attention from girls -He isn't required to have a scientific background to -*test*-('") magnets. He has bought many property by selling this -He doesn't invent products that require others to use. You can use the rings alone. The other products are enhancements to already having the ring but you are not required to wear them -He has never been diagnosed with personality disorder, he is who he is -1 month is not long enough for some to notice -He offers people free instructions how to build the rings -He has many many before afters submitted by others -Hundreds of personally written -*test*-('")imonials -Now advertised in many major magazines -Tons of satisfied ring users

CerealRapist- 09-01-2008
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-He was recommended in Kevin Trudeu's book. Hey, kevin sold 5 million. #1New york times bestseller. Did you? Kevin Trudeau! That guy has no credibility as he is himself a fraud and has been convicted of fraud and larceny. See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Trudeau -His gorgeouspil has changed him if you look at forever young video vs the new videos, he is getting more attention from girls He looks exactly the f-ucking same, and if he gets more attention it has to do with confidence, not his face being rearranged by some magical pill. -He isn't required to have a scientific background to -*test*-('") magnets. He has bought many property by selling this No scientific background is necessary, but for someone whose only training is in cutting fish to produce the most important invention in human history is very unlikely. Regardless, the fact that he got rich from selling bogus products doesn't make him legitimate. It makes his customers morons. -He doesn't invent products that require others to use. You can use the rings alone. The other products are enhancements to already having the ring but you are not required to wear them Wrong! When he made GP, he said you needed the rings to use it. And he also said that it would "unwise" to use the rings without GP. And then he said the same thing about SCF and some other sh*t he was selling called "american ginseng." -He has never been diagnosed with personality disorder, he is who he is You think he's going to go get himself checked out for mental disorder? The guy took 4 years just to get his own goddamn picture taken so we could see his miraculously changed face (which wasn't changed at all, incidentally). Besides, lack of a diagnosis is not evidence for absence of a serious mental disorder. Look at his behavior! Look at the way he talks to his sister. Look at the list of symptoms for narcissistic personality disorder and tell me that doesn't sound exactly like Alex. -1 month is not long enough for some to notice Oh really? His website says that wearing the rings for 1 day equals 30 days of regular healing. If I had an injury of some kind, it should have healed very quickly if that is true. I had an injury, it didn't heal any faster than usual. So either Alex is a liar about how the rings work, or they don't work at all. Which is it? -He offers people free instructions how to build the rings So what? That doesn't mean he's not a fraud or a nutcase? -He has many many before afters submitted by others But who are these people? What are their afflictions? Where are the double-blind studies that show that the rings are more powerful than placebos? -Hundreds of personally written -*test*-('")imonial All kinds of fraudulent products have -*test*-('")imonials. Without -*test*-('")ing or monitoring protocols they don't mean anything. The placebo effect is one of the strongest medicines on this planet. -Now advertised in many major magazines Anyone can place an ad. This doesn't mean jack sh*t. -Tons of satisfied ring users But there are plenty of people who aren't satisfied users, like me. Those people don't show up on this board, and Alex does not post their negative -*test*-('")imonials on his page. Your lack of awareness of these people does not prove that they don't exist. I bet there are plenty of people who bought those rings that never use them because they found that they don't work.

Anonymous- 09-01-2008

Alex Chiu is the grea-*test*-('") man since Hiltler. He is the new Hitler. Hail Hitler. Hail Alex Chiu!

frank2008- 09-01-2008
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-Tons of satisfied ring users But there are plenty of people who aren't satisfied users, like me. Those people don't show up on this board, and Alex does not post their negative -*test*-('")imonials on his page. Your lack of awareness of these people does not prove that they don't exist. I bet there are plenty of people who bought those rings that never use them because they found that they don't work. If there are so many unsatisfied users, why they don't post in this forum to prove alex chiu is fraud? They should be very angry if they are getting older or dying for cancer etc wearing the rings. Someone must also have died, why his/her relatives don't post here full of rage and don't sue alex chiu? Since placebo effect works only on 30% people, we should see more negative -*test*-('")imonials here than positive. But what we see is about 99% positive and 1% negative.

SacJB Shady- 09-01-2008
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Kevin Trudeau. Author of #1 New York times Bestselling book, over 5 million copies sold. The most trusted health guru in the world. Cereal rapist, you can obviously tell in the new you tube videos with sargeant that he looks more prominent and less nerdy than in forever young. Anyone can tell you THAT. And you can see it too, maybe you just don't want to admit it to yourself. Yes, you have to already have the rings if you use gorgeouspil. That is how the formula works. Can not run a car without an engine. Scientology has proved there is no personality disorder. Cereal rapist, I'm sure you had some benefits to wearing the rings, maybe you just expected something more in a quick time. There is no QUICK fix, it takes time. Be an Alex Chiu lover, not hater. What you trying to accomplish on the forum talking about alex?

Jaguar b. p.- 09-01-2008

- his so-called 'technology' runs directly contrary to millenia of scientific theory Scientists specialize in 1 area and can't really see the whole. I'm sure some bespectacled old loser with a chalk can explain "curvature of spacetime," but he is unable to tie it into a Gauge video for example (you know porn star Gauge).

SacJB Shady- 09-01-2008
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hey cereal rapist, don't be cynical. Did you know that EVERY single great inventor almost in history was made fun of and put down before they were proven right? You would have laughed at many great inventors who people thought were rediculous.

CerealRapist- 09-02-2008
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hey cereal rapist, don't be cynical. Did you know that EVERY single great inventor almost in history was made fun of and put down before they were proven right? You would have laughed at many great inventors who people thought were rediculous. this might be true, but for every million people in history that were laughed at for their claims, only 1 or 2 of them turned out to be great inventors. You haven't heard about the people who didn't get famous! Most of them deserved to be laughed at.

SacJB Shady- 09-02-2008
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true.. If that's how you wanna look at it

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