How "the secret" is a scam
http://mp3.olivetreeviews.org/OTM2007_04_14A.mp3 Very informative about the secret. http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-au&brand=ninemsn&tab=m164 Teachers on the secret exposed as scammers, owing millions of dollars and ripping off investors. type in "The Secret exposed" and you get the video. It is a old lie wrapped up in new packaging, it does not work. Neoplien Hill who wrote "think and grow rich" died pennyless, the same principle has been thrown out many times and it simply does not work. All of the endorsements by the people saying that they have become rich is because they are the promoters and sellers of the Secret, it does not work for anyone else, it's like the self help guru guy, who uses his own example of becoming sucessful of selling his own success books. It does not work for anyone except those who are involved in the scam. If the secret really did work, then why not send copies of "the secret" to poverty stuck nations like in africa, if all they have to do is use positive thoughts to attract wealth they could raise themselves out of poverty. Why don't they do this? it is because it does not work. An old yarn about a classic marketing con game on the secret of wealth instructs you to write a book about how to make a lot of money and sell it through the mail. When your marks receive the book, they discover the secret--write a book about how to make a lot of money and sell it through the mail. http://mindblog.dericbownds.net/2007/05/secret-scam.html Learn how the secret has scammed you. Many of the people in the secret movie have criminal records, mainly from being involved in fraud.

The secret is not a scam, it might be old principles wrapped up in new packaging, but it works!. You tell me how positive thinking doesn't work?, you attract what you dwell upon.Fact!. If you think negatively, then do you still think you will be happy?No, I rest my case!!. What ever method you choose to reach the subconcious, it doesn't matter, as long as you reach it. I don't suppose you have even tried it have you?, these teachings go back thousands of years, there is even stories in the bible about it. What do you think "water into wine" means?.The water is your thoughts & the wine is your manifestation.

your analogy of Africa to use the secret is a bad one besides that the secret is a US movie and it does say you have to look for opportunities in the secret like you can't sit home unemployed and never look for a job and never go out and expect top gain anything.

It is a scam, check out my links. Also check out the video, it really shows that the people behind the book and dvd are the lowest of lowest scum. http://www.thehappysecret.com/ I think he will fail.

Ata1, more negative bullshit spewed forth from your ugly mouth I see? Whats up with the pic of the girl's pussy with a fish on it? Isn't that blasphemy according to you? Grow up son.

Jimmy is abusing his privileges as a moderator. I Noticing his poor grammar used in a recent post, made light of it and he instead of responding similarly back in a decent manner which obviously he doesn't know how to do, he instead modified my profile. This is blatant misuse of moderator privilege and undermines the trust of ALL the users on this board. He is not fully to blame for this though, it is the other moderators who blindly watch like fatted cattle and do nothing, Jimmy should have been stripped of his privileges long ago but nothing has been done.

None of your posts are of a decent manner.

There you go for free speech! I will say this right now, the people here think as communists. They do not care about what is right or wrong, they only have their agenda which is "everyone think as you wish, there is no right or wrong, if your gay thats fine, we support anything". That is wrong, it is a lie of the devil which people here have believed. I will say this right now, I am the most honest and morally correct person here on this board. I have never swore or posted anything pornographic, infact I have spoken out against others here who are posting perverting pictures, using foul language and in general supporting anti moral and good behavior but as well all know this has fallen on deaf ears, even people who supposedly try act like they are unbias have shown they are truely nothing more than beasts of the the field. kamebazooka your comment there right now shows you are nothing more than a tool of the devil, I speak the truth, I do not swear or post pornographic pictures, instead I speak against it, and here you are calling for my posts and words of wisdom from the bible that has guided man for thousands of years to simply say "hey I don't like what this guy is saying, he says sin is bad but I like it, lets delete his posts, I living in my own sin find someone highly offensive speaking out against it". I will say now, the Christian who is a moderator here, DR Phelps, is not anyway christian, he is ment to discourage bad language and posting of pornographic material, instead I think here is here enjoying it, not enforcing the TOS like he should. He is not christian, just another fool on his way to hell. This forum is called the immortally device forum, it is for people to post details and their experience of using immortally devices, well the bible is a device which grants REAL immortality, everlasting life and I am here posting my learnings and experiences of it and trying to tell people that immortality, real immortality is not something to seek in this world, It is something to seek out of this world, no man that has ever lived has not died in the flesh or who are here will not. Alex himself says that if you put on your rings and believe in them and walk out infront of a bus, it will destory your moral body no matter what. But if you are a bible believing christian and you did the same, when hit by the bus your body will be destroyed but you will have everlasting life in heaven. His devices are of the devil to deceive thinking they can live as a sinner forever and escape judgment, I will tell you now this is not the case, you will die and if you do not believe in Jesus Christ as the savior, you will goto hell for eternity. Infact the people here who have used the rings have become great sinners, I would say that it is almost the mark of the beast, one set of the rings are placed on the right finger which is on the forhand and I do believe the anti christian sediment which arises when a user puts on the rings is something to marvel at, they will begin to believe they can have sex with 10 yearolds and live forever in on this earth, woe for you when the rapture comes, the beast will own you and after the tribulation, you will go with the devil into hell. The rings will not protect you from god wrath. Yes the Powers that be here can silence me, ban me and delete my posts for speaking the truth, but that will not change the truth which is that to have salvation you must believe in Jesus Christ as your lord and savior and if you refuse to listen and accept the truth you are a fool and destined to hell.

ATA wrote: They do not care about what is right or wrong, they only have their agenda which is "everyone think as you wish, But is that not how you are also ? You only care about what you think is right, you posted not PORN PICS but pics that were disturbing to others on this forum and not once did you excuse yourself for posting them, dont talk too fast as your not so innocent..

ATA, I was actually defending you. I don't agree that admins should modify your posts. If your posts are not acceptable, they should delete it or ban your account. They would not ban you because of your opinions or beliefs; they would ban you because you behave as a spammer -- most of your posts are like advertisements, and you do not follow in genuine discussion, or stand behind your claims. However, if admins move to ban you, I will actually defend you again, and say that if they ban you, they must also ban alex for the same reasons.

Ata1 you talk about people posting pornograhy but look at the disgusting images you post! Yes all of these images whether they be pornographic or child abuse in nature are happening right now, but does that mean we must spread that negativity? You are not awakening anyone to these problems you are only spreading the horrible images of them. Think about that.

The pictures are designed to get people to take action. There is nothing wrong with those photo, people need to understand that these problems exist in the world and with your help they can be corrected. Many Athiests believe that money should not be given to the poor and starving people of nations, they believe because they are there, they are the problem and if they all die that will solve the problem and help the environment. That is one reason I am against the environmental movement, their plan is to reduce population and they support little humanitarian help, they deep down want people to become extinct or atleast to a reduced level where we are all living in huts or caves. It is necessary that people understand that because of luck of the dice, you were born in a western country and they in a third world country, is it really ni e to be sitting back laughing at these people and calling them losers? just because they were born in an impoverished country. They must be given the same opportunities we were given in the western world, it is only fair. For children, food is number one, then schooling. Food nourishes the body and school nourishes the mind and gives their future hope. GeneralOfLight, just because you do not care about these people, you would rather ignore them, not pay any attention to them or desire to help them, that is a shame.

If you only post such a picture a couple times is one thing -- but repeatedly posting such pictures and putting such large sig is the same as spam, no matter what your intentions. Alex must truly believe his inventions can help the world -- this is a noble goal -- but when he uses spam techniques that means it is spam. However, even though Alex is notorious spammer, even he does not have a large sig as yours. Imagine if he put a big advertisement for his product in every post.