Gambling (Horse Racing/Harness/Greyhounds) MD's Thread :-)
Hello! I kinda figured that I should start a thread in relation to gambling, mainly horse racing, harness (trotting) and greyhound racing. Mainly because I will be doing this on a regular basis and I would like to keep everything in the one area. I hope that's okay :) Cheers! Roxy

Date: 3rd November 2007 Should I bet on Solar Impact to finish in the top 3 in Perth race 2 today? Year: h, Month: sh, Day: c-VIII, Empty: cn & e Rise - 46 Arrive - 19 R yo - - R yo - - gry P h - - P h - - yel K w G c - - J G c - - red R yo O G c - - grn B y P h - B m - blk G c X U K e - wht G money stars on self line. G money star is strong/healthy and not moving. Will finish in the top 3. Should I bet on Capuchin to finish in the top 3 in Perth race 2 today? Year: h, Month: sh, Day: c-VIII, Empty: cn & e Kan - 29 Rot - 18 B t X J K y - gry R sh O B t - - yel P s - - R sh - - red G w X U P yo - grn R cn - B h - blk K y - - R c - - wht 6 Strike Stable Bt is weak. Bt is bound to day c. Gw strikes with Bt allowing it to move/become Ky, which is healthy. Gw is healthy. Gw strikes with Bt, moves/becomes Pyo, which is buried in day c. (Killing Cycle). Ky strikes Ps. Ky moves/becomes Rc (killing) Ps moves/becomes Rsh, which is healthy (producing cycle) Will finish in the top 3. Should I bet on Laetare to finish in the top 3 in Perth race 2 today? Year: h, Month: sh, Day: c-VIII, Empty: cn & e Revolution - 49 Duay - 58 R wa - - R wa - - gry P yo - P yo - yel B h - J B h - red G w B h O R c - - grn R c X K m - blk K m - U G e - wht 6 Strike Money killer on self line. Bh is weak in day c. Gw hiding behind weak Bh. Bound to Rwa, needs Rc to strike. Rc strikes Rwa -> Produces Km, which is healthy in day c. Km strikes Pyo to produce Ge which is healthy in day c. Km is bound to mth sh - is struck by Pyo, Opponent wins. Should I bet on Moodometer to finish in the top 3 in Perth race 2 today? Year: h, Month: sh, Day: c-VIII, Empty: cn & e Separate - 59 P m - gry B e - J yel G yo K wa - - red R h B w - - grn K cn - U blk P y - - wht Be is healthy in day c. Kcn on U line is strongest in day c. Gyo hider is weak in day c. Kwa is strong in day c. Rh hider is weak in day c. Bw is healthy in day c - Rh cannot move until s, yo. Kcn is bound to hider Gyo. Day c strikes Kwa, releasing money star to opponent. Should I bet on Shipyard to finish in the top 3 in Perth race 2 today? Year: h, Month: sh, Day: c-VIII, Empty: cn & e Lawsuit - 6 Advance - 35 K sh - B e - gry G s O K wa - - yel B w - J G yo - red R h B w - - P m - - grn K cn O B e - - blk P y - - U K wa - - wht Unstable Unstable Gy is healthy on day c. Gy is bound to Kh. Kh is weak on day c. Pcn and Byo are bound to each other. Top 3 Finish Should I bet on Wingate Street to finish in the top 3 in Perth race 2 today? Year: h, Month: sh, Day: c-VIII, Empty: cn & e Queen - 44 P sh - gry B s - yel R w - U red B yo - grn G y K h - blk P c - - J wht Pc is healthy on day c. Pc is bound to day c - needs wa to strike. Rw is healthy. Gy hider is healthy. Gy hider is bound to Kh, which is weak. Will need either e or s to strike before it can move. The top 3 to finish will be Solar Impact, Shipyard and Capuchin. ETA: 1st Shipyard, 2nd Capuchin, 3rd Solar Impact I should have done my trifecta (first 3) allways (finish in any order) instead of boxing them in (finish in order). I put Solar Impact 1st, with the Capuchin and Shipyard to finish either 2nd or 3rd with Wingate Street in for 3rd (I just wasn't too sure about it). If I had of done the trifecta 3 horses allways, I could have turned $15 into $137. Bugger!

Hi Roxy, was busy lately didn't have time checking all your hexes. noticed you toss for many horses same day are you taking a short break in between ? some of your hexes are not acurate. it is possible to toss a few times a day, i do it myself . but if your hexes are not clear enough it's better to limit your tosses. after all your placing money on horsses acordding to them. also can you pleae post the results in a separate post ? wish you the best, Sharon

Sure thing :) I have noticed that I can get the first race accurate, but then I think I get excited or something as things start to change, if you know what I mean. So I will definately be limiting my questions per day from now on - it's also a bit draining mentally. Cheers! Roxy

Hi Roxy, yeh i know what you mean but you can start tossing a few days before. with time you'll be able to toss for more games without feeling mentally drained. practice makes perfect. :) I prefer winning less money than losing because my hexes weren't correct . so I bet on 1-2 footy games a day. but i toss in advance for Sunday games, the only day i bet on 4-6 games. Btw, is this the right hex for Shipyard ?? Should I bet on Shipyard to finish in the top 3 in Perth race 2 today? Year: h, Month: sh, Day: c-VIII, Empty: cn & e Lawsuit - 6 Advance - 35 K sh - B e - gry G s O K wa - - yel B w - J G yo - red R h B w - - P m - - grn K cn O B e - - blk P y - - U K wa - - wht Unstable Unstable Gy is healthy on day c. Gy is bound to Kh. Kh is weak on day c. Pcn and Byo are bound to each other.

OMG! I don't know what happened there with Shipyard's :shock: (mummy brain must have kicked in :) ) Here is the proper one for Shipyard's. Year: h, Month: sh, Day: c-VIII, Empty: cn & e Trapped - 47 Joy - 16 P wa - - P sh - - gry B yo O B s - - yel K h - U R w - red R w - - G m - - grn P cn O R e - - blk G y - - J P wa - - wht 6 Match 6 Match I have had a break today. Yesterday I did 2 races and got the first one right (it only had three horses though), but the second race I got 2nd and 3rd. There is a big race coming up here in Perth in about 1.5 weeks - maybe if I just do a couple of horses a day, would that be better? Greyhounds are a different matter all together - could that be because I don't normally bet on greyhounds? I've just purchased a book on meditation so that I can learn how to relax and focus my energies. It can't hurt can it? One thing I have noticed is that since I have stopped with all my internet/affiliate marketing and started concentrating on I ching, I have actually been feeling better about things - kinda like a weight is being lifted, IYKWIM. Cheers! Roxy

As long as you can read ur hexes you'll be fine ;) i don't fully understand how you decide which horse wins but you seem to get it right so who cares. Getting a clear hex is only a matter of been able to focus your mind on the question while tossing. so if you think meditation will help you, do it. i simply toss for games while drinking my morning coffee. Can you bet on a single horse or do you have to bet on all 3 winners etc.. what are your options ?

That's the good thing about TAB, they have so many options with betting on horses - they make it really easy for people to loose their money :lol: Some of the options are: Win & Place, Quinella (top 2), Exacta (top2, but pays more), Trifecta (top 3), Quartet (top 4), Quaddie (pick the 4 winners of the last 4 races at a meeting), Double (pick the winners of two consecutive races), All-Up (pick horses to either win or place in different races at the same meeting), and then there is Favourite Numbers. The hardest bets to get, and the ones with the biggest payouts, are Trifectas, Quartets, Quaddies, Double, and Favourite Numbers. Heaps of ways for punters to loose their money :lol: Heaps of ways for me to win money 8) I've found so far that horses are difficult to predict. Here is one that I did on Sunday, 11th November 2007: Should I bet on Our Triumph to win CR1 today? Year: h, Month: h, Day: yo-VI, Empty: y & m Finish - 60 B t - - yel R sh - red P s - - U grn R c - - blk K m - wht G e - J gry 6 Match The 6 match is broken as the Km is empty. Ge is weak in day yo. Ps is strong on day yo. Ge is bound to Ps. Hmmm, I threw again as the J and U lines were bounding to each other. Year: h, Month: h, Day: yo-VI, Empty: y & m Fog - 3 Zen - 51 B t - - R sh - - yel R sh O U P s - - red P s X G w - grn G w R cn - - R cn - - blk K y - - J K y - - wht B t - B t - gry 6 Strike J line is emtpy. Opponent wins :) Should I bet on Blazing Icon to win CR1 today? Year: h, Month: h, Day: yo-VI, Empty: y & m Rise - 46 Wonderful - 11 R yo - - R yo - - yel P h - - P h - - red K w G c - - J G c - - grn R yo - G cn - blk B y P h - B y - wht G c X U P t - gry 6 Match Hmmm, both the J and the U line have the same star and element. The 2nd line is empty, Threw again...... Year: h, Month: h, Day: yo-VI, Empty: y & m Separate - 59 Look - 20 P m - P m - yel B e - J B e - red G yo K wa - - K wa - - grn R h B w - - P m - - blk K cn O U B e - - wht P y - - K wa - - gry Be on the J line is weak in day yo - money killer is weak. J line is also not moving. Kcn on the U line is bound to day yo and is healthy. Pm cannot strike to break bound as it is empty and won't fulfil until m day/mth/year. Because the K star is strong on U line and the B star is weak on J line, this horse has a very good chance of winning. Should I bet on Aqua Delva to win CR1 today? Year: h, Month: h, Day: yo-VI, Empty: y & m Stop - 12 P sh - U yel B s - red R w - grn G m - - J blk R e - - wht K t P wa - - gry 6 Match The Gm on the J line is emtpy - money star is empty and won't come into effect until m day/mth/yr. Because the J line is empty, opponent wins. Blazing Icon should win, with Our Triumph 2nd and Aqua Delva 3rd. The reason for putting Our Triumph 2nd and Aqua Delva for 3rd is Aqua Delva's J line is empty, while Our Triumph's is weak. Steve (my partner) did a box trifecta with Blazing Icon in for 1st, Our Triumph in for 2nd and Aqua Delva for 3rd. Results follow :)

Results for CR1, Sunday 11th November 2007: 1st: Blazing Icon 2nd: Our Triumph 3rd: Aqua Delva Because Blazing Icon was short-priced favourite at $1.60, and there were only three horses in the race, the trifecta only paid $2.60 per $ - Steve got $26 back from $10 YAY! 8)

Date: 9th November 2007 Should I bet on Cat In A Hat to win PR6 tomorrow? Year: h, Month: h, Day: wa-IV, Empty: y & m Revolution - 49 R wa - - grn P yo - blk B h - J wht G w B h - gry R c - - yel K m - U red Km on U line is empty - won't come into action until m day/mth/yr. Bh is weak (disappears) in day wa, but is bound to month h - B star may still have some strength? Gw hider is bound to way wa - needs t to strike to release boundage and move. Should I bet on Blue's Guitar to win PR6 tomorrow? Year: h, Month: h, Day: wa-IV, Empty: y & m Trapped - 47 Separate - 59 P wa X G m - grn B yo - R e - blk K h O U P wa - - wht R w - - R w - - gry P cn - P cn - yel G y - - J G y - - red 6 Match Gy on J line is empty - G star won't come into effect until y day/mth/yr. Will be beaten Should I bet on Guyno to win PR6 tomorrow? Year: h, Month: h, Day: wa-IV, Empty: y & m Advance - 35 Shun - 57 R e - G m - grn P wa X R e - blk B yo O J P wa - - wht G m X B yo - gry R e X K h - yel K t P wa - - U P c - - red Unstable 6 Strike Pwa i s bound to day wa. Kt hider is weak (disappears) in day wa Should I bet on Who Did It to win PR6 tomorrow? Year: h, Month: h, Day: wa-IV, Empty: y & m Solution - 40 Rich - 55 G sh - - G sh - - grn R s - - U R s - - blk K w - K w - wht K w X P h - gry G cn O J G c - - yel P t B y X B m - red Gcn on J line is strong in day wa. Gcn strikes Gsh. By is empty line. Rs is on U line is strong in day wa. Rs on U line is not moving. Kw is bound to day wa. Pt hider is on empty line - cannot strike. Has a good chance. Should I bet on Black Douglas to win PR6 tomorrow? Year: h, Month: h, Day: wa-IV, Empty: y & m Lawsuit - 6 Advance - 35 K sh - B e - grn G s O K wa - - blk B w - J G yo - wht R h B w - - P m - - gry K cn O B e - - yel P y - - U K wa - - red Unstable Unstable Py on U line is empty. Bw on J line is bound to day wa. Even though Bw is weak in day wa, it is still bound to the day, which is bad for the horse. Won't win. Should I bet on Blue Hoops to win PR6 tomorrow? Year: h, Month: h, Day: wa-IV, Empty: y & m Difficulty - 39 Humble - 15 K t - - B yo - - grn P sh O K h - - blk B s - - J P c - - wht B s - B s - gry G m R w - - R w - - yel P cn - - U P cn - - red Gm hider is empty - won't come out until m day/mth/yr. Pcn on U line is strong in day wa. U line is not moving. Bs on J line is strong in day wa. Won't win. Pcn is strong on U line. Should I bet on Circles to win PR6 tomorrow? Year: h, Month: h, Day: wa-IV, Empty: y & m Chen - 1 Combine - 45 P sh O J P wa - - grn B s - B yo - blk R w - K h - wht P cn O U G m - - gry G y O R e - - yel K t O P wa - - red 6 Strike 6 strike stays as 2nd and 3rd lines are not empty as they are moving lines - is that right? Pcn on U line bounds with Psh on J line. Pcn is stronger than Psh. Won't win - maybe place? Should I bet on Rossam to win PR6 tomorrow? Year: h, Month: h, Day: wa-IV, Empty: y & m Shun - 57 Little Storage - 9 B m - J B m - grn K e - K e - blk G wa - - G wa - - wht R yo - U G cn - gry P h - B y - yel G c X P t - red 6 Strike Bm on J line is empty - not a moving line. Won't win. Should I bet on Special Witness to win PR6 tomorrow? Year: h, Month: h, Day: wa-IV, Empty: y & m Finish - 60 Return - 24 B t - - P yo - - grn R sh O B h - - blk P s - - U R c - - wht R c - - R cn - - gry K m O K y - - yel G e - J B t - red 6 Match 6 Match Ge on J line is weak in day wa. Ge bounds with Ps. Ge and Bt on J line are in a killing cycle (fire kills water) - is that right? Ps on U line is strong on day wa. Bt disappears on day wa. Won't win. U line is stronger than J line. Should I bet on Stirrup Iron Jack to win PR6 tomorrow? Year: h, Month: h, Day: wa-IV, Empty: y & m Cover - 4 P y - grn R t - - blk G yo K sh - - J wht B w - - gry K cn - yel P y - - U red Py on U line is empty. Py on 6th line is empty as well. Ksh is strong on day wa. Bw is bound to day wa. Bw is weak in day wa. Rt cannot strike to break bound as it disappears in day wa. K stars are strong on day wa. Kcn is bound to Gyo hider. Kcn strikes Ksh. cn is stronger than sh. Even though U line is empty, opponent will win as Kcn above U line is bound to Gyo hider? Results to follow :)

Silly me bet on Rossam (momentary lapse of reason there, LOL!) Results of PR6: 1st Cat in a Hat 2nd Black Douglas 3rd Rossam - No Third Div 4th Blue Hoops Cat In A Hat won. Why? U line is empty - no opponent, very weak opponent. Bh disappears on day wa. So J line's Bh disapears as does the Bh below. Gw hider moves to take the place of Bh, effectively putting it on the J line. Because the U line isn't there, Gw is free to do it's thing. 8)

Today 13th November 2007 Greyhounds Should I bet on Bettys Angel to win The Shootout on Thursday 15th November? Year: h, Month: h, Day: h-VIII, Empty: y & m Zen - 51 Commander - 7 G sh - - J R yo - - gry R s - - P h - - yel K w O G c - - red G cn - - U K w - - grn B y X G cn - blk P t O B y - - wht 6 Strike Stable Gn on U line strikes wtih Gsh on J Line - cn is stronger than sh. By on lines 1 and 2 aren't empty. By on 2nd line is bound to day h. Rs strikes By; By becomes Gcn (killig cycle). Rs becomes Ph (producing cycle). Kw disappears in day h - it can't strike with healthy/strong Pt. I'll say that the opponent wins as Gcn is stronger than Gsh. I think this dog will finish in the top 3. Should I bet on Cool Effort to win The Shootout on Thursday 15th November? Year: h, Month: h, Day: h-VIII, Empty: y & m Trade - 42 No Way - 25 B m - U G sh - gry K e - R s - yel G wa X K w - red R yo G cn - - J G cn - - grn B y - - B y - - blk P t - P t - wht 6 Strike Bm on U line is empty - no opponent. By is empty. Gcn on J line is healthy on day h. J line is not moving. I think this one will win. Should I bet on Miss Hot Gossip to win The Shootout on Thursday 15th November? Year: h, Month: h, Day: h-VIII, Empty: y & m Abide - 17 Quarrel - 38 G wa X U K e - gry R yo O G wa - - yel K w P h - R yo - red G cn - - J G c - - grn B y X B m - blk P t - K e - wht Stable Gcn on J line is healthy in day h. Gcn bounds with Ryo - nothing striking to break boundage. By bounds to Ph - there is nothing to break the boundage? (By is too weak to bound?) Top 3 finish. Should I bet on One Tree Hill to win The Shootout on Thursday 15th November? Year: h, Month: h, Day: h-VIII, Empty: y & m Stop - 12 No Way - 25 P sh - U P sh - gry B s - B s - yel R w - R w - red G m - - J P cn - - grn R e - - G y - - blk K t P wa X K t - wht 6 Match 6 Strike Gm on J line is empty. Psh on U line is healthy - U line is not moving. Opponent wins. Should I bet on Shanlyn Prince to win The Shootout on Thursday 15th November? Year: h, Month: h, Day: h-VIII, Empty: y & m Family - 37 Lawsuit - 6 B m - G sh - gry K e - U R s - yel G wa X K w - red R yo P h O K w - - grn G c X J G cn - blk B m O B y - - wht Unstable Ke on U line disappears in day h. U line moving in a killing cycle on line 5. Gc on J line is healthy. Gc strikes with Gwa; Gc moves (produces) Gcn. Bm on 6th line is empty. Bm on 1st line isn't empty as it is moving, but it disappears in day h. Now, because the Ke on the U line disappears, does that mean that the Ke cannot produce the Gc on the J line? If that's the case, then this dog won't win. Should I bet on Tasman Queen to win The Shootout on Thursday 15th November? Year: h, Month: h, Day: h-VIII, Empty: y & m Consolidate - 22 R y - gry G t - - yel B sh - - U red K s G h - grn P w B c - - blk R m - J wht 6 Match Rm on J line is empty. Conclusion: I pick Cool Effort to win. This is because the U line is empty, as is the other B star. How can there be an opponent if the U line is empty? What do you think? Thanks! Roxy

i'm still at work, only had time to look at ur hexes from Nov 11th . when you ask if you should bet on a horse the answer is yes or no so the 6 strike 6 match are important. Should I bet on Our Triumph to win CR1 today? Year: h, Month: h, Day: yo-VI, Empty: y & m Finish - 60 B t - - yel R sh - red P s - - U grn R c - - blk K m - wht G e - J gry 6 Match The 6 match is broken as the Km is empty. Ge is weak in day yo. Ps is strong on day yo. Ge is bound to Ps. You've got a 6 match hex it means yes but the month strike J line meaning no. this is called striking after bounding. that's probably why he only finished 2nd place. same goes for Aqua Delva you had a 6 match hex (hex 12) with the day striking J line Gm, so again you had striking after bounding. There's a post here you can check about striking after bonding & bonding after Striking. Btw, The 6 match isn't broken because Km is empty. I've never heard that term before. Km is moving to Produce J line beacuse the day strike it to move . also Ge doesn't bound to Ps beacuse the line isn't moving. got to go, bye :)