Don't you guys get it? It's all a mental trip they're/she's putting you on! Most guys receive this initiation even before their teen years. If Alex had been willing to respond to my offer last year, then he wouldn't be having any of these problems. I'm not saying that I am always correct, but most people who do not listen to my advice when I KNOW something (including intuitively), end up paying for it, i.e. continue to be miserable. The difficult part to accept is that they have chosen to suffer because a part of them likes it. Sick, but true. As an example, a lady who refused/ridiculed my advice about her ADHD son put him on drugs anyway (pushed by the state school, and even recently signed a waiver, allowing them to restrain and strap her child down! I call that betrayal. Now she complains, and doesn't know what to do. That's a lie; of course she does, but she doesn't want the truth -only to have something about which to complain.