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frank2008- 01-04-2009
FOR ALEX'S SAKE
For the sake of Alex, I will post somethin intelligent in this forum that is rotting more and more cause oh lobsang and julian. TAKE ARGININE ON EMPTY STOMACH ONE HOUR BEFORE YOIU WEAR THE RINGS. IT'S AMAZINGLY POWERFUL! REALLY FREES UP BLOOD CIRCULATION!

frank2008- 01-04-2009

TO BE IN INTERNET WITH PHOTOS AND DETAILS ETC MEANS YOIU WILL BE PROBABLY RESURRECTED AND IMMORTAL ONE DAY: QUANTUM ARCHEOLOGY -Raising the dead by quantum mechanics Ecce signum Facial Reconstruction of Tutankhamun d.1324 BCE Article !!!!!!!in preparation!!!!!! not sorted/spell checked syntaxed etc!!!! It was chucked out of wikipedia at my first attempt, which explains its stunted style. any comments/revisions/contributions welcome at London Artificial Intelligence Club where you can email me. ABSTRACT Quantum Archeology (Archaeology) describes the emerging science of resurrecting the dead, including memories, when no obvious trace of them remains in the present. THE ARGUMENT Quantum Archeology - (Quantum Archaeology) also known as quantum resurrection and quantum information retrieval, is is a controversial and emerging idea in modern science about information retrieval using process technologies like hypercomputing and advancing statistical methods. With enough information about the past, Ancestor simulation by is thought possible. Emerging statistical, probability and number crunching techniques are expected to be massively more accurate in assisting archeology as retrodiction as well as prediction with spacetime coordinates, plotting detailed maps of ancestors, including their memories with quantum plotting, then resurrecting them. MANIPULATING DATA It began as a science in transhumanist and futurist philosophy, was coined and written about on Ray Kurzweil's MINDX. It ruthlessly asserts that there is no qualitative difference between information expressed as a living human being or as a set of data; that as any long dead person is describable & therefore resurrectable, by reconfiguring historical spacetime coordinates using coming science and technolgy they are likely to be reassembled. One of it's most acute theories describes a possible method for raising the ancient dead using advancing statistical probabilistic sampling quantum calculations like those pioneered by Professor Ray Solomonoff, by treating a person as a data set at a defined point of spacetime and seeking to accurately describe that point - then reconstructing them robotically. It anticipates coming process technologies usually called hypercomputing that include, but are not limited to quantum computing, nanocomputing, and light computing and it attempts to look at resurrection issues in terms of information manipulation, in a world that has post-human level intelligence (assumed to occur at more than 10^17 flops (Hans Moravec). Statistical methods will improve predictability & are hurtling forward at dramatic speed, using approximations and pattern matching as well as the 19th century preference for constants (the 'C' in E=MC/\2 is a constant; C is the speed of light agreed by convention to be 299,792,458 metres per second). Boltzman's equation S=klogW gave a formula for finding entropy using constants. Just as in linguistics, statistics, and all mathematics, is founded on agreed memes. Although like language it is a self-referential but infinite system, like language helps Man survive, increase pleasure and avoid pain. Co-founder of A.I. Ray Solomonoff's Algorithmic Probability is an example of a landmark advance in statistics. "Quantum Archeology" first surfaced in 2002 in discussions about Tipler's The Physics of Immortality and Steven Wolfram's A New Kind of Science, using the forecasting ideas of new statistics, ideas from fiction and with a focal point called the Omega Point by Pierre Teilihard De Chardin a Jesuit priest, and Tipler, a professor of mathematics. Supporters include Frank Tipler and opponents Robert Ettinger, and it was discussed at the Pentagon sponsored AI@50 in the USA in 2006. Quantum Archeology was inspired by Asimov's Foundation trilogy where Hari Seldon makes aggregate probabilistic predictions using psychohistory across thousands of years. Such an idea was also thought of by Russian philosopher Nikolai Fyodorovich Fyodorov in the 1800's. PSYCHOHISTORY REVERSED The basis of psychohistory is the idea that, while the actions of a particular individual could not be foreseen, the laws of statistics could be applied to large groups of people and used to predict the general flow of future events. Quantum Archeology does it backwards, ie uses statistical methods to determine the past at quantum level detail, instead of the future. It is well written about under specialist headings as information theory, and the resurrections of the dead is one of the most bizarre applications of quantum forecasting and information retrieval using quantum mechanics. Ancestor states are the same for ancestors of groups of sub-atomic particles or for the memories body of a long deceased person, the parameters of the tank dependent only upon what variables or fixed points you can measure from the present, deducing backwards to what must have been, like someone joining up the dots in a child's puzzle. Quantum_Archeology advances that it is possible to reconstruct the exact states of any event whose spacetime coordinates can be established, and recreate it with sufficient technical skill, enabling the resurrection of any person, when no physical part of them remains. Is is based on the view that the cosmos is subject to law and any past points in spacetime are therefore discoverable by enough calculation. Asimov used the analogy of a gas: in a gas, the motion of a single molecule is very difficult to predict, but the mass action of the gas can be predicted to a high level of accuracy -known in physics as the Kinetic Theory. Quantum archeology is the opposite of psychohistory and is an attempt at ideating method to prepare for the science of how those predictions are made, including methods like sampling (probability) and is in its infancy. It assumes the cosmos is a determinist system and it further assumes since human complexity of the cosmos is increasing there will be vastly more useful data available in the present than the past, from which to construct adequate coordinates. Although the application of quantum archaeological techniques to resurrection was novel, techniques had been researched since the quantum theory exploded onto the world stage from Einstein's monumental work in Relativity. For a long time it seemed that the cosmos was lawless, but the Many Worlds Interpretation returned physics to determinism, supporting the pathos-filled paragraph by Einstien in a letter to Max Born in September 1944; “You believe in the God who plays dice, and I in complete law and order in a world which objectively exists, and which I, in a wildly speculative way, am trying to capture. I hope that someone will discover a more realistic way, or rather a more tangible basis than it has been my lot to find. Even the great initial success of the Quantum Theory does not make me believe in the fundamental dice-game, although I am well aware that our younger colleagues interpret this as a consequence of senility. No doubt the day will come when we will see whose instinctive attitude was the correct one.” We know from Everett's theory that the universe is entirely governed by law, and once the basics of it have been grasped, it is immediately obvious that that must permeate to the smallest thermodynamic levels as well, leaving traceable foootsteps to any point in the past. But Everett's meeting with Neils Bohr in Copenhagen in Spring 1959 had not gone well: it is said Bohr wouldn't allow him to discuss his Many Worlds Theory. One cant know Bohr's objections, and it probably doesn't matter. The theory is an assault on the uniqueness of a man, and that it is probably true makes it less forgivable. It seems incredible to the layman that a science could advance or retreat acording to politics, but the professional scientist knows only too well one has to fight for a new theory, and that it wont be ignored once exposed. Darwin and Newton had refused to discuss their new science, and what is being called the nmst important theory of the 20th century (BBC 'Parellel Lives') is giving circulation to Everett's work which has led to the advent of quantum computers. When quantum archeology began to be discussed there was a refusal to take it seriously, partly because it overturned the long-held paradigm that death was irreversible when nothing of the pshyical body was left. When scientists examined it there surprisingly little hostility as it became clear it was correct quite quickly, and also that human death could not be a permanent state in terms of the scientific identity of any possible past human, which had to be describable in terms of data or outside science. The only issue was then could a point of space time be plotted that gave enough historical coordinates to resurrect when nothing of the person remained to work with? That issue in turn reduced to could one assemble enough computing power. It is unlikely that no trace of anyone who has lived could be deduced by powerful computers likely to be available around 2045 (calculated by trends like Moore's Law). People long dead will be brought to life, and this can be done by degrees. At first the resurrectees may not be faithful representations of the deceased, but before long they will be ready to be brought back to life with all their memories in tact and computers used to rehabilitate them. Here is an example done now from a single image (one variable) - quantum archeology will use statistical techniques to configure near infinite points of reference for any dead person from variables gatherable in the world of the present: Robert Ettinger had wrestled alone with such ideas and continues to break new ground ( Feb 2008 "I suspect--although I don't know--that there is a law of conservation of information, so that in principle no information is ever lost and is in principle capable of recovery"). and found one probable solution by capturing as much of a clinically dead person as possible in a cryonic suspension. He anticipated that future techniques would allow a revival and rejuvenation and that as much information as possible should be stored, beginning with the brain. Quantum archeology is the natural continuation of that idea, though cryonic suspension is successfully argued to be important for reconstruction. Frank J. Tipler immediately supported the idea and his letter was published on Ray Kurzweil MINDX, although he saw raising the dead as three dimensional resurrectees as unnecessary because computer simulation will be the same thing. “You are indeed correct that this is possible because the current universe has limited complexity....the complexity of the visible universe today is bounded above by 10^{123} bits of information. It is indeed correct that the 2nd law of thermodynamics applies to the universe as a whole. In fact, the Second Law is essential in the proof that the laws of physics REQUIRE the computer capacity of the universe to increase without limit.” Like archeology which is able to reconstruct objects from ancient times using surviving fragments, knowledge about similar objects, and probabilities, quantum archeology assumes future computing power like quantum computers will enable this by back tracing, using laws of cause and effect with emerging mathematical and statistical methods. There are always more variables in the cosmos than there were is history allowing enough information to be gathered to reconstruct any historical event down to the quantum particle. The universe is becoming increasing complex and any group of variables should plot backwards to a time when there are fewer events. Everett's Many Worlds Theory implies that many future worlds will have only a few common ancestors. Moreover, a s time advances, the number of events in the cosmos multiplies allowing checking of back tracing from different variables to common roots. Therefore enough variables will exist at any future time to resurrect any past event in infinite or near infinite worlds. Quantum Archeology further holds that no event in the cosmos can be non-determined, just complex, and makes no special conditions for human beings or any observers. The idea was first discussed on line in the kurzweilai.net forums in 2002, where it was initially regarded as a pseudoscience, but began to be taken seriously and received endorsement from eminent scientists like Frank J. Tipler and written about (see Notes below) as quantum resurrection. SIMULATED OR REAL RESURRECTION? "Any illusion indistinguishable from reality IS reality" Maxim of Witchraft A debate surfaces about the validity of a simulation in a machine, thoughfew in science doubt such simulations will eventually be possible: "Humans are interested in the past. Archeologists scrutinize fragments of pottery and other broken artefacts, painstakingly piecing them together and attempting to reconstruct the cultures to which such objects belonged. Evolutionary biologists rely on fossil records and gene sequencing technologies to try and retrace the complex paths of natural selection. If the freely-compounding robot intelligences ultimately restructure space into an expanding bubble of cyberspace consuming all in its path, and if the post-biological entities inherit a curiosity for their past from the animals that helped create them, the 10^86 bits available would provide a powerful tool for post-human historians. They would have the computational power to run highly-detailed simulations of past histories- so detailed that the simulated people in those simulated histories think their reality is (real)." Extropia. MINDX If you produce a recipie or a map of a complete event, like a human being and all their memories at the instant of their (first) death (this paper argues that death is reversible therefore 1st death is what deceased persons have gone through at present), it should be possible with technologies of the future to resurrect them young and fresh in the real world - one we inhabit! MAJOR CRITICISMS Another criticism of the theory is that entropy causes irretrievable information loss at death and therefore resurrection would breech the second law of thermodynamics. Quantum archaeologists retort that entropy does not imply abstract chaos but presently unmeasurable complexity. Religious objections include the belief human beings operate by different laws to the rest of the universe which was a challenge made to Everett's Theory. Objections from cyonics founder Professor that an objective perspective is not a subjective one - which should also be assigned validity, and may be much more important for survival in human terms - is hard to dispel. He has urged caution in quantum archeology and gives the example of the human mind uploaded into a robot to demonstrate: in 2007 (email to me) “...it may eventually be possible to simulate as large a portion of spacetime as desired, to any desired degree of accuracy. But that does not necessarily mean that a simulated person would be alive in our sense, i.e. capable of having subjective experiences.... A simulation is a description of a thing and not the thing itself.” and again in 2008 “In general, the map is not the territory. A description of a thing is not the thing, except in the case that the "thing" is itself an abstraction or description. In particular, a description of a physical object is not that object and lacks some of the properties of the object, as well as including some properties that the object does not have. Further, an automaton that behaves like a person is not necessarily a person, i.e. alive in our sense, capable of subjective experience or feeling. In other words, a person has qualia. A quale is a physical state or phenomenon, not yet understood, but not necessarily duplicable in inorganic matter. ” The objection from qualia is a nightmare for many physicists for there is no way to disprove it and history has been a progression of more complex denouements about the structure of humaness. The Egyptians famously threw away the brain which we find laughable today. General Relativity Professor Roger Penrose has stated that we may not know everything necessary about the brain and has advanced an idea about atomic gravity acting at the synapes to explain the deeper manifestations of human consciousness. Some philosophers have criticized transhumanism on the grounds that it is an attempt at a religion since both posit immortality, resurrection, description of the universe, and through the Simulation Argument, a designer, but transhumanist's absence of of a subjective valuation system for Man except as an object, is dangerous. Extropians rebuff this by asserting the theory is intensely humanist and values Man so much it attempts a survival strategy for the assumed irrecoverably dead as well as the living. Another objection from quantum mechanics is that retrodiction traces myriad histories, not just one common past, and therefore it would be impossible to calculate the exact person as required. This is refuted on the grounds that Many Worlds Theory has returned cosmology to determinism and the sheer scale of the calculation involved baffles people into believing it is not possible; secondly that anything that has existed or will exist has definite pathways, however many parallel worlds split, and therefore are calculable. The aim is not to capture the actual person from the past, but only to calculate their spacetime or other coordinates to the Nth degree and reconstruct them in the present. 'What will be resurected?' is a challenge by some thinkers. it is even now possible to resurrect a clone of some mammals, so some form of immortality already is possible in technology. How far this can be taken is dependant on our measuring and construction expertise, though most agree this is likely to dramatically leap at the advent of hypercomputers, when machines begin designing and inventing themselves. This challenge too assumes some special property of a human being that is not accessible by the laws of science. Techniques are likely to be discovered that can manipulate extremely small sizes as well as very large ones, but it is thought unlikely that faithful replication beyond sub-atomic levels would be necessary, even if superstrings are not the smallest possible state, which they may well not be. The 'against God arguement' is pretty standard for many science breakthroughs: only God can raise the dead, a scientist is not God, therefore raising the dead is impossible. QA supporters argue that raising the dead does not infringe on God, as if God exists he is capable of carrying out resurrection through the agency of Man. Debates occur about the nature of identity such as those discussed in The Prospect of Immortality (free online), and by the philosopher Professor Derek Parfit; the computing capacity needed, and the social and legal difficulties of raising the dead. Moore's Law and other trends published by Kurzweil indicate when there will be enough processing power to achieve simulations complex enough to map out a world, and it is expected that a 200 Qubit quantum computer may be able to do this (30 Qubits would match todays supercomputer, and D-Wave Systems claims to have built a 16 Qubit system). It is assumed that singularity technology and Artificial General Intelligence will be required to model enough of the local universe to simulate any human being and many futurists including Vernor Vinge and Ray Kuzweil expect that by 2030 when intelligent technologies are expected on consistently performing trend graphs. There were very few attempts to build accelerating intelligence and the first conference for Artificial General Intelligence was set up for March 2008; if any of the AGI projects succeed ahead of 2030, it will fulfill the criterea for resurrection by quantum archeology. RELIGIOUS OBJECTIONS 'Only God can resurrect the dead and it is wrong to interfere with Nature: if we were meant to resurrect we would already be doing it.' Many advances in science have had to overcome this objection. One aspect of God many people accept is 'universal good'. Man acts in goodness when he attempts to save lives and many states & religions have people doing ceremonies to assist the dead in their resurrection. Funeral is an implicit contract of faith by the living with the dead, and it is easy to argue Man is acting as the intrument memes of God or a universal good. What is good and bad is not unclear: good is whatever helps us; bad is whatever hinders us. The greater the group a good helps, the 'gooder' it is. Resurrection will become a basic civil and human right, as it becomes clear that it is possible to raise the ancient dead technologically. I have outlined probable scientific methods by which resurrection may happen, and invited people to contest the validity of my assertions elsewhere in this work. MAN HAS A SOUL THAT CANT BE INTERFERED WITH BY SCIENCE What evidence is there for this? Some faith think the soul grows as our relationship with universal good grows. This was the original meaning of 'soul'. When Abrahamism touched the Greek and Roman civilisations and took them over, it was because it's religious philosophy was much more worked out than theirs. The law and the idea of the people's interaction with one highest good, the reification- more than personification- of an ideal of chief Good, were merged with social norms. The Romans who were in the middle east when such philosophy was unfolding, seized the idea of highest universal good embodied in one person and invest it in the living emperor, Caligula. Alexander had used it, declaring himself a God, and Jesus and others had advanced it. Amen had legislated for one god as Pharaoh of the Eighteenth dynasty of Egypt c 1336 BCE, and it is possible Jewish monotheism descends from it. Although his religion of one god lasted only 20 years, his followers may have secretly carried it on using his name as the cartouche or sealing spell at the end of prayers we still use today. 'Amen'. The Hymn to Amen was found on the rock walls of the tomb of Pharoh Ay in 1320 BCE, after the religion was supposed to have been purged. " How manifold it is, what thou hast made! They are hidden from the face (of man). O sole god, like whom there is no other! Thou didst create the world according to thy desire, Whilst thou wert alone: All men, cattle, and wild beasts, Whatever is on earth, going upon (its) feet, And what is on high, flying with its wings. " Ay was succeeded by Tutankhamun. So it is probable that some worshippers existed who followed one god. 'One universal & absolute good' has been a philosophical and religious idea evolving for thousands of years, and is tied completely with Man and his resurrection. Modern priests performing rituals evolved from ancient times are not thought interfering with God's work, but are part of it. An Islamic Taxi driver I discussed this with was alrmed & said if this could be done we would no longer need God, but the idea of god is much more compliecx than just resurrection, which need not compete with it, as the frontiers of what Man can achieve are pushed back. The universe is believed infinite and the notion of God-, as at least consensual good-, may be indipensible for Man as he launches to the stars. By this logic, Man assisting the resurrection of Man has been part of God's work and plan since before recorded history. Indeed the priesthood's seperation from the medical and scientific professions happened only at the decline of ancient Egypt after conquest by the Nubians, Assyrians, Greeks and Romans - Alexander the Great's general, Ptolemy in 323 BCE set up the Greek Dynasty - brought an inxredible mix of philsosophies and learning to the Nile people, and when the Romans came their christian followers pulled down the pagan gods, really reverting Egypt to Amen worship, which was the dominant relsiion of judo Christian worship. It would be impossible to argue the Amen does not derive from the Egyptian monotheism phase, & Judiasm may be a form of that brought out of Egypt by Moses when he and his followers were prohibited form practicing it. Islam & Christianity are branches from that propagated by the Saracen and` Roman empires. Man resurrecting Man is not an affront to God but a godly path, and heaven may be achievable as a greatest good in the earth: Man is the right hand of God; science is the right hand of Man. AS THERE ARE MANY PAST HISTORIES, HOW DO YOU FIND THE CORRECT ONE? This objection is from The Many Worlds Interpretation of quantum mechanics, that states the world is splitting into myriad copies at each event. It is answered from statistical dynamics within Many Worlds maths. All past and all future possible histories are correct in that they do tend to exist. However any defined history will have effect markers in the present able to converge to tributary specificivity beyond out present science to configure, and confirmable as the correct histories by cross-calculaton proofs as done in simultaneaous equations, from other markers and marker effects. The required past, calculated within a set of known present markers, is not all the past but a narrowing field of the past as you begin to eliminate irrelevant histories by impossibilities, calculating probabilities that will tend to 100%. "When you've eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth." - Sherlock Holmes RESSURRECTION OF QUANTUM INFORMATION IS AGAINST THE LAW OF ENTROPY While the Law of Entropy looks sound, it does not state that the total energy in a system alters. Information is just certain arrangements of data, expressed as particles of energies. Data is constantly aranging and rearranging, but the beauty of it is that it moves according to the laws of science and not in unpredictable ways. Every thought you have ever had is the inevtable resultant of things moving according to scientific laws, and this was also true for your ancestors. It is thereffoe not possible that an event in history could be lost give sufficient computing power. More, the amount of computing power needed for such a calculation estimated now While there may be some parts of the past that are hard to trace direct paths to, there will so many startunbg points available that many lines of calculation will aggregate to the required points. THERE ISN'T ROOM We will make and find new places to live in the cosmos when we have enough scinece to resurrect the dead. Such a time may be closer than many think if one considers computer ability trends. WHO WILL JUDGE THE RESURRECTEES FOR THEIR PAST CRIMES? Law is specific expert area which is likely to evolve with our technology; retrospective law is not usually allowed by most legal systems. CAN FUTURE PEOPLES READ MY THOUGHTS NOW? This is inevitable; future hominoids are likely to have massive facilties of mind and body, probably unimaginable today, if many of the philosophical propostions of A.I. are correct eg 'intelligence has no upper limit.' IF WE CAN RAISE THE PAST CAN WE PREDICT THE FUTURE? Yes, it's the same method. We already make predictions and live by them. Predictions in the future will be massively more accurate. A philosophical difficulty is the place of Man and the seeming refutation of free will: that may be answered with 'the compatability argument' in philopsophy, which holds that free will & determinism are not in conflict. ARE THERE ANY LIMITS TO PREDICTION/RETRODICTION? Yes. The limits are the capacity of the machine doing the calculations. If 'M Theory' is correct, then the universe may be too vast for the smartest machine ever to predict it. However it may still be able to predict enough of it to be useful. It is also likely that coming machines will easily be able to retrodict almost all dead people and their memories, because the machines of the future are going to be very intelligent & have huge capacities. DOES QUANTUM ARCHEOLOGY INVALIDATE CRYONICS? No. The more data about someone we store the better. If you can get a cryonic suspension it is wiser to get that; quantum resurrection has not been achieved yet and there may be some unforseeable reason why it would not work. RESURRECTING THE DEAD IS TOO COMPLICATED TO BE POSSIBLE It was once too complicated to sequence the human genome or go to the moon. What we can configure is growing bigger every year, every month. Every week more data can be manipulated more efficiently. It is likely that quantum spacetime events will be manipulated too and complete enough descriptions of any historic person at the very instant of their death be calculable. Eldras Ellis Kellogg College University of Oxford April 2008 See Also * Information Theory * Psychohistory * Statistics * Prediction * Quantum Theory * Many Worlds Theory * Technological Singularity * Forecasting Notes & sources dealing with the topic by other names 1829-1903 posthumous "What Was Man Created For?: The Philosophy of the Common Task" N.F. Fedorov First mention of resurrection through science (ISBN: 0907855091) 1964 "The Future of Man" Pierre Teilhard de Chardin (Omega Point theory) ISBN 0-385-51072-1 1987 Renormalisation group theory of spin glasses V S Dotsenko 1987 see ancestor statesJ. Phys. C: Solid State Phys. 20 5473-5478 doi:10.1088/0022-3719/20/33/005 1993 "The Coming Technological Singularity", Verner Vinge. Symposium held at NASA Lewis Research Center (NASA Conference Publication CP-10129) 1995 "The Physics of Immortality" Prof Frank J Tiper. ISBN 0333618645 1998 "Time and history in quantum tunneling" in Superlattices and Microstructures, Volume 23, Number 3, March pp. 823-832(10) A.M.Steinberg 2000 Sub-Poissonian photon statistics of higher harmonics: quantum predictions via classical trajectories Jirí Bajer et al 2000 J. Opt. B: Quantum Semiclass. Opt. 2 L10-L14 doi:10.1088/1464-4266/2/3/102 2000 The Large the Small and The Human Mind Professor Roger Penrose Cambridge University Press 2000 Forever For All R Michael Perry ISBN-10: 1581127243 # ISBN-13: 9781581127249 Universal-Publishers 2002 "Psychohistory" (A tool for Historical Prediction) by Christos Z. Konstas ISBN : 960-7928-72-5. 2003 "Are You Living In a Computer Simulation?" Nick Bostrom. Philosophical Quarterly, Vol. 53, No. 211, pp. 243-255. 2004 Quantum Archaeology 'What is actually Teleported?' IBM Journal of Research & Development. Vol. 48 NO. 1 January p64-end re: ancestor states. 2005 "The Singularity Is Near" Ray Kurzweil ISBN 0-670-03384-7. 2005 Quantum Archeology Wed 7 Dec Vlatko Vedral Manchester Theoretical Physics Group SCHUSTER COLLOQUIUM. (see also eg Vlatko Vedral deposited papers Los Alamos http://xxx.lanl.gov/find/ on quantum information recovery (same principle as quantum resurrection). 2006 "Information recovery from black holes" by Vijay Balasubramanian, Donald Marolf, Moshe Rozali in General Relativity and Gravitation pub by Springer Netherlands ISSN 0001-7701 (Print) 1572-9532 (On line) Issue Volume 38, Number 11 / November 2006 "Resurrection of Schrödinger's cat" Jae-Seung Lee and A K Khitrin New J. Phys. 8 144 2006 "A Beginner's Guide to Immortality:" Extraordinary People, Alien Brains, and Quantum Resurrection by Clifford A. Pickover ISBN-13: 9781560259848. 2006 Quantum tool kits could transform archaeology New Scientist July 21st issue 2561 2007 New Scientist article on C.A. Pickover's book (above) Nov 17th. 2007 Edward Anderson. Records Theory 2007 "The Never-Ending Days of Being Dead: Dispatches from the Front Line of Science" Faber and Faber by Marcus Chown ISBN: 057122055X 2008 "How much of one-way computation is just thermodynamics?" Janet Anders, Damian Markham, Vlatko Vedral, Michal Hajdušek January 21st, arXiv:quant-ph/0702020v1 Psychohistory.org

frank2008- 01-04-2009

TAKE ARGININE ON EMPTY STOMACH ONE HOUR BEFORE YOIU WEAR THE RINGS. IT'S AMAZINGLY POWERFUL! REALLY FREES UP BLOOD CIRCULATION!

violetsun- 01-04-2009

They might ressurrect a dead body using gentics and cloning, but that wouldn't be your true self, because your soul already migrated elsewhere, i think that this will be possible in less than 20 years

Rayanna123- 01-04-2009

I hope they ONLY bring back useful people. Who worked hard in there life.

J.R.S.II- 01-04-2009

Happy birthday Rayanna!

SacJB Shady- 01-04-2009
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o no. today is 2 of my friends bday. peter and pierre.

frank2008- 01-04-2009

They might ressurrect a dead body using gentics and cloning, but that wouldn't be your true self, because your soul already migrated elsewhere, i think that this will be possible in less than 20 years you are wrong, if you are on internet with your pics, details, info about you etc, probably one day superAI will be capable of resurrect you and yoiur brain and synapses and make you immortal, also extracting infos about you from people who knew you (computers are now already learning to read human thought), places where you lived, your dead corpse's DNA and features etc. you have to understand future superAI computing power and intelligence will be near to infinite, they will actually retrocalculate your personality and your neurons' configuration through infos I reported up in this post.

J.R.S.II- 01-04-2009

Franco, do you think superAI will be even more powerful than Alex Chiu?

frank2008- 01-04-2009

Alex, as everybody else, will MERGE into superAI one day ( about year 2050 )

J.R.S.II- 01-04-2009

Alex, as everybody else, will MERGE into superAI one day ( about year 2050 ) But before they merge, say in 2048, if they had a battle using all their resources, who would win?

frank2008- 01-04-2009

But merging will be step by step, in 2050 will be complete. Even when you access internet and google you are already merging with AI. Internet and PC are first step.

J.R.S.II- 01-04-2009

But merging will be step by step, in 2050 will be complete. Even when you access internet and google you are already merging with AI. Internet and PC are first step. Yeah, but say Alex decided he didn't want to merge, and then had a fight with superAI. Who would win?

frank2008- 01-04-2009

SuperAI, babe.

Rayanna123- 01-04-2009

AWW so its over for you Franco? Cause noone likes you so theyd make sure you werent resurrected :cry: nice knowing u.