experiments with the astral travel device This night i tried , to project afetr having meditated on the device.
Results:
meditating for about 30 minutes , felt sort of discomfort
went to sleep , meditating on franco's photo , the image in my mind
was badly formed, since i take the mental reference from Alex Chiu's
site, where 2 different photos were shown.
I tired to focus on one, but the discomfort raised a lot ( mostly because
he is a male and at subconsicous level i felt embarassed )
I fell asleep , i slpet very badly, as always happens when i try to project
no image of franco or his house.
But i dreamt of the marriage beetween my cousin and her fiance which will
be whithin few months from now.
I remeber every word, so i will take note as the even will take place.
Sometimes it happen , i wnat something and i get another different thing.
I have no rush , i know that sooner or later i will have an astral contact with franco.
Franco pay attention to your dreams please ,repeat to yourself, before falling asleep , i will remember everything i dream
frank2008- 06-30-2008
Well, I remember all dreams I had tonight. Were very vivid, but I dreamt about 2 girls I liked in the past.
Nothing about you or your astral body.
And you say nothing about my room. My million dollars stays here. :)
DrSchadenfreude- 06-30-2008
I'm looking forward to this astral contact v71. Im sure Frank will be willing to send you a new pic and whatever other details you need via pm for the sake of disproving what he deems to be a delusion...What do you need?
jc- 06-30-2008
V71 just focus on one only of FRANCOS picture, copy and paste on some doc you have on your computer and meditate with it..
The MACHINE you created should be a great help yes ?
You did state:
it will recharge your etheric structure to the point you can do astral travel at will , and other things i don't want to share here
You are saying it ''WILL'' not could so you are 100% sure the machine
works and you will ASTRAL TRAVEL at will..
You also stated it does not always happen but if it does not happen
at all that you are unable to go to FRANCO within these days then
i think the MACHINE you created might be a FAILURE- if that is
what you were planning to use it for (ASTRAL TRAVEL AT WILL.)
DrSchadenfreude- 06-30-2008
Precisely, JC. Of course, the machine itself may not strictly be utterly useless but it will have failed the test for the claims v71 set up for it: that you can astral travel at will which I would take to mean anywhere and anytime you want.
If he was ethical he would then modify his claims to say "It may allow you to astral travel somewhere, sometimes." Then he'd retest by different testing standards to see if that were true.
If he goes through this I must say, he is a bigger man than Alex who refuses to go through such processes. Let's give him a week though and see what results he can bring us and what conclusions we can draw from them...I'm still here hoping that at some point in the week he can verifiably testify an "astral contact" so that the claims he made about his machine aren't proven COMPLETELY false.
We'll see...
myfantasia- 06-30-2008
how do you know you are doing astral travel, verses dreaming? Is there a different feeling. Just wondering :)
v71- 06-30-2008
No , no , wait a minute, my device recharges aura, and it allows you to go astral 100% no doubt , the problem is another, not alwyas my astral projections are controllable, i stated that once i found myself into deep space , and that night i didn't even want to project.
Astral travel for me is not always a funny experience , many times i don't want to project because i feel the presence of malevont entities around myself.
But franco wants a proof , i wanted to take this challenge, but this doesn't mean that i am able to go in his room at the very first try.
Normally i let thing set back for a while and then , suddenly i have aprojection when i least expect it.
So i think that within a pair of days or week i will astral travel to franco's room.
There is another thing , i am not here to prove anything to anyone, my machine is not on sell and i know that it works and this is more than enough for me.
Francois Tremblay- 06-30-2008
Well that's all well and good, but there's no such thing as auras. So the effects you are experiencing come from the depths of your own mind, not from any exterior determinism.
DrSchadenfreude- 06-30-2008
I know you're not here to prove anything to anyone v71, but sometimes to reassure yourself that it works, its best to submit that to consensus. How do I know that something I imagine isn't real? Consensus.
You've submitted to the challenge because you believe it's real and provable and scientific and that's very honourable - I would feel thrilled, amazed and eternally grateful to you, and would probably offer you big money to sell me the machine, if you provide decent evidence that it works. Whilst there's no chance I'm shelling out for Alex's rings before he offers evidence or my own studies give me reason to believe they work...
Keep us posted in the results, I'm here all week.
Francois, we're submitting it to examination - that means suspending our prejudices and putting our faith in the fact that the scientific method will prove it right or wrong. Soit pas méchant, hein. Ce mec croit que son machine marche et donc on va le tester et puis juger.
Francois Tremblay- 07-01-2008
Well, my comment has no bearing on whether he will do it or not: I am simply pointing out the facts, which he will, of course, ignore.
Si tu peut comprendre son charabia et nous dire exactement ce qu'il croit, je te donne un prix... :shock:
DrSchadenfreude- 07-02-2008
Any update v71? It's been a few days now
hahaha Francois, aucun prix pour moi :-(
jc- 07-02-2008
Lets wait at least 1 week its only been 2 days.. 1 week should be enough to establish contact with FRANCO...
Cant wait... :wink:
frank2008- 07-02-2008
Please.. that's so sad.. obviously v71 is a lonely guy who takes his imagination for reality.
He should take gp and go out to disco every day and enjoy life
v71- 07-02-2008
Yes i am working on that, before i got sleeping i try to connect with franco, but the photo isn't fixed in my mind.
I don't have any pleasure going at disco, i enjoy life in antoher way.
Sooner or later , i will astral travel to franco's home, i am meditating harder on the device each day, just to show to franco i am right.
But even if i would describe franco's room he surely would say i went wrong on everything.
frank2008- 07-02-2008
But even if i would describe franco's room he surely would say i went wrong on everything.
Well, if you are really convinced about this, why you go on in the challenge? Just give up.