Evolution, a deadly religion

Evolution, a deadly religion

I'm sure you have heard about the finnish man killed his class mate, he killed because he was operating under his beliefs of evolution. In his profile on YouTube, Auvinen, calling himself Sturmgeist89, says: "I am prepared to fight and die for my cause. "I, as a natural selector, will eliminate all who I see unfit, disgraces of human race and failures of natural selection. Alot of the social problems today and past is caused by a belief in evolution. Hilter had the same mindset, communists are also big supporters of evolution and is evidenced by the tradigies under their rule.

The Orthodoxy had the same mindset when they killed off the Gnostics. You're just referring to the echoes that occurred in the aftermath. Only you can't kill off the faithful, because they commune directly with the lord. Hence we have the secret societies and then movements which have existed for centuries. Alchemy, Knights Templar, Rosicrucians, Theosophists, Masons etc. Yep, Hitler had the same mindset, and those who burn the books will burn the people too. And so it was. But what goes around comes around and the persecutors find themselves in subsequent lives paying grievously for their debts as Jesus had said: "whosoever would prevent one of these little ones to come to me, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were tossed into the ocean". My friend, is that counterfeit look-alike armor inflatable? Not that I think it could lift a millstone, but just for the sake of curiosity...

But what goes around comes around and the persecutors find themselves in subsequent lives paying grievously for their debts as Jesus had said: "whosoever would prevent one of these little ones to come to me, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were tossed into the ocean". Everybody who does not believe in Jesus suffers the same fate, they do not reincarnate back into the world, instead they goto hell which is worse than what our minds can image. See hell was created for the devil, it is a supernatural torture chamber designed for the devil and his demons, man was never ment to go there, but because of his sin, it has become the incinerator of choice.

You have posted before about hell; do you still believe hell is in the center of the earth? Of course it is too expensive to dig down to find out for sure, but there may be other ways to prove it if you believe it is true. For example, you could find a body from hell that has dug its way up. Kame, the bible makes it clear that the hell known as the second death is in the center of the earth. The "lake of fire" corresponds directly to the magma we know exists there. Science even teaches this. No one will be able to prove it exists, because those who go there do not arrive there in their physical bodies, rather their spiritual ones. Hell is as much a spiritual dimension, as it is a particular place related with a particular area inside of the earth. If someone wants to prove to themselves that it exists, you should take a look at the OBE thread, learn how to awaken, astrally project, go beyond your ego and experience the reality of the astral plane and others. Develop those abilities as others have shared their experiences with it. If I remember correctly, Sinkron was actually there.

, learn how to awaken, astrally project, go beyond your ego and experience the reality of the astral plane and others. Well I wouldn't recommend people to do that, AP is an occult practice and personally I would stear clear of it. But yes you are right, Hell is in the center of the earth, Bill Wiese said he went to hell and claimed it was about 2000-3000 degrees which is the temperature scientists estimate it should be.

earth, Bill Wiese said he went to hell and claimed it was about 2000-3000 degrees which is the temperature scientists estimate it should be. Temperature is a physical property so you are saying that there are actual physical people in the center of the earth. Is this correct?

Formation of the Earth's Core Once the proto-Earth had aggregated, internal heat from radioactive decay, combined with gravitational energy and collisional energy from planetesimal bombardment kept the planet molten. As the proto-Earth cooled, reduction reactions within the convecting system resulted in production of a metal-rich core and a silicate-rich crust-mantle structure. The original materials from which the Earth accumulated were iron, magnesium silicates (or iron oxide mixed with silicon and magnesium) plus carbon and sulphur. These last elements acted as reducing agents. The core melts The Earth heated up; the heat source was partly gravitational heating, a result of the size of the planet; partly impact heating through collisions; and partly, indeed mostly, from heat generated by the decay of radioactive isotopes. In this natural smelting process, the iron silicates were reduced to iron metal, which sank to the centre of the Earth and formed a metal core. We cannot reach the core of the Earth directly; study of iron meteorites helps us to understand planetary formation and differentiation processes and sets boundaries as to when and how the Earth's core formed. The timescale over which core formation occurred can be deduced using several radiometric decay schemes, one of the most telling of which is the newly-established 182Hf-182W (Hafnium-Wolfram) chronometer. The strongly lithophile 182Hf is partitioned into silicates, relative to the more siderophile W during differentiation, and subsequent variations in Hf/W are caused by decay of 182Hf to 182W (T1/2 ~ 9 Myr). Models based on the 182Hf-182W chronometer indicate that formation of the Earth's core took place gradually, some 50 Myr or so after the differentiation of iron meteorite parent-bodies

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Did you know, the center of the earth is hotter than the surface of the sun? Jc brings up an interesting set of facts, nevertheless, just because the core is solid doesn't prevent souls from being there (astral physics deems that spiritual bodies can go through solid matter, as the astral plane is no less a reflection of the physical world also but without it's laws). Also, the fact that the surrounding area is encompassed by molten lava still attests to the notion that people can be thrown in a lake of fire. libertygospeltracts.com: "Deuteronomy 32:22 says, "For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and SHALL BURN UNTO THE LOWEST HELL, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains." Psalm 86:12, 13 says, "I will praise thee, O Lord my God, with all my heart: and I will glorify thy name for evermore. For great is thy mercy toward me: and THOU HAST DELIVERED MY SOUL FROM THE LOWEST HELL." While it is possible that hell is some place else that is down, it is also very possible that hell is in the center of the earth."

when you speak of things in the unseen world, you can say anything you like and no one can say you are wrong. but ATA is talking about things being in the physical world, so he should provide evidence. He does not seem to be talking about spiritual planes; he talks about physical people inhabiting the physical center of the earth. This is an astounding claim, so why should he say such things without evidence?

If someone claims he/she has astrally visited hell that happens to be in the center of the earth, that is definitely not valid evidence.Astral planes are composed of thoughts, imaginations. This means what you see in the astral does not necessarily truly exist. Also, I believe it is very close-minded to assume we, people on Earth, are the only intelligent-spiritual creatures/humans to exist in the whole, vast Universe. Therefore, why should hell be in the center of Earth? Not to mention that the idea that hell even exists is amazingly retarded.

By the way ATA; FLASH NEWS: Evolution is not a religion, it is science. Grow some brains before you go around accusing everything you don't agree with.

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If someone claims he/she has astrally visited hell that happens to be in the center of the earth, that is definitely not valid evidence.Astral planes are composed of thoughts, imaginations. No, dreams are consisted of thought and imagination. Objects and creatures in the astral can also be the result of thought and imagination, as thoughts create the realities there. If someone is dreaming they're caught up in the ego. The astral plane is a spiritual reality one experiences when conscious (even if the body is asleep), outside of the ego. This means what you see in the astral does not necessarily truly exist. It does truely exist, but needs to be understood in a more refined context of perception which is able to dilineate what the basis is for hallucination (dreaming, the ego) and what the basis is for viewing reality (the astral plane). In the physical world, clairvoyants exist who can see into the astral, while simultaneously seeing the physical world. They're not dreaming, and they're not dillusional. Meanwhile there are also infraconscious people who clairvoyantly see their own ego, and the lower dimensions of hell, and this is something entirely different. These people are called schizos. The ability of clairvoyance can be developed in several ways, primarily with the use of mantras which coincide with the ajna chakra. The foundation on which your arguement rests is upon perception. This same notion could be expressed to describe one's interactions with the physical world. Someone could say easily that because we experience the physical world vicariously through our 5 senses, that it doesn't necessarily exist but is a product of our own imagination, since the information we recieve from the outside world is ultimately only a product of our own internal impressions through neurons.

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The foundation on which your arguement rests is upon perception. This same notion could be expressed to describe one's interactions with the physical world. Someone could say easily that because we experience the physical world vicariously through our 5 senses, that it doesn't necessarily exist but is a product of our own imagination, since the information we recieve from the outside world is ultimately only a product of our own internal impressions through neurons. This is an interesting philosophical point but it does not change the fact that ATA claimed that Hell exists in the physical center of the earth and that physical people reside there. We can test for things in the physical world but we cannot test for things in the non-physical world. That is the distinction -- so we can say a statement about the physical world is right or wrong based on physical evidence. We cannot perform the same kind of test for a non-physical world. Even if the perception of the physical world is an hallucination, that does not matter in practical terms, especially in ATA's case. ATA does not claim the physical world is an illusion ATA claims hell is physical ATA claims it is in the center of the earth ATA claims there are people there So, ATA must have physical evidence of this, because it is otherwise astounding to say. You can make any claims about the unseen world -- you can say that the spiritual Hell is made of cottage cheese. Who can deny what you say? They cannot offer you any evidence that you are right or wrong. But ATA crossed the line and said hell is physical. So he must back that up. In the same way, Alex can claim anything he likes about the spiritual nature of his rings. Maybe they offer spiritual immortality. Who can prove him wrong. But when he claims physical effects, he must back that up as well.

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