By changing your ways, I explicitly mean to change your negative mind-set and desist imposing it upon others. "and I am now following the last of Jesus's messages which is to go out and spread the word." Jesus COMMANDED us to talk of fire and brimstone, assault even children with horrific videos, and to turn others against us?? WHAT?? Please show us that quote from the bible! I cannot wait to see it!! ". . .you don't become a Christian by going to church..." Oh, really? I did not know that! I was born in a stable; therefore I am a horse... READ: I accepted Jesus as my personal saviour and lord, and did join a small church. My parents even transferred me to that church's school. I found myself unable to retain my "new life and new love for the lord", what with the teachers and church members using religion as a control tool and for manipulation. I tried other churches. . .SAME PROBLEM! There is a plethora of other issues, but I don't wish to write a book here! JC is EXACTLY right on! It was exactly my switched focus, guided by christians, which put an end to my short-lived joy: "Satan is everywhere! Man is sinful by nature, therefore you are sinful and must resist your evil intents!" I see that you force me (and others) to reiterate: Evil I sought, so evil I found! More and more and more and more, until I became sick! As a young teen I cut myself, as per my training since puberty, that boys are evil, "puppy dog tails" and with their ugly penises, whilst girls were "sugar & spice", and got away with everything! I learnt to hate my genitalia, for they were the source of "sinful sexual desires". A pubescent erection was the signal for me to have bad feelings and to open the knife drawer. I fervently prayed: "Lord Jesus, please save me from my sexual feelings!" But Jesus never healed me, and my issues and negative feelings were more and more reinforced by my environment. I was even harassed by girls! As I entered adulthood, I finally got a girlfriend, but destroyed the relationship when she began to display "sinful desires", and ultimately dumped me in disgust, as she realised that I had major issues. After that, I managed to MANIFEST several relationships with sick girlfriends, who matched my "reality"! Yes, they too had been either properly trained, or had been previously abused, raped or molested. After years of torture, I decided to release my self-restraints, and that was in itself a difficult road, sometimes lined with mines of self-defeat. My last relationship was wonderful and "sin"-free; unfortunately, my illness, which I had been cultivating over the years, had progressed to the point where I was forced to end the relationship (no details, but there were several factors involved). ATA1: Before you jump to the conclusion that all of this had to do with sexual guilt, I wish to make it very clear that this is ONLY ONE of many aspects, and as the song goes, "I Could Write a Book". As you can see, I already have here. Man is not evil; religions are! We have a long history of wars to prove it! NO!, Not "all wars"! Stop deliberately misinterpreting and picking pieces like a politician! Muslims and Christians alike are miserable, yet they deceive themselves that they are happy! They are miserable, just as you are, ATA1; the fact that you make feeble attempts to be self-righteous proves this TRUTH! "You say there are people concerned about me here, I doubt it, they are more concerned about themselves and their feelings..." Are you really so blind? The fact that we respond to you in and of itself is a reflection of our concern! Duh!

ATA, you routinely misspell things and this is supposed to be your first language. Why should we expect that a dumbass of your caliber has discovered truth

jaguar bp whatever happened to coheecambriadude?

Jaguar bp could you answer my question about what happened to coheecambriadude? also could you answer my post right below this one since you used to be a i ching reader? Your help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

kyle, ATA1 is the most textbook example of a pharisee that I've ever encountered in 30 years. I would suggest not bothering with him, as he's so enamored with his own religiosity that he is unable to live by the actual teachings of the bible. it's quite sad, really.

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Interesting article, reminded me of someone...... who would probly have people locked in a dungeon to purge them of their sins if they looked at them funny: http://abintrapress.netfirms.com/articles/relvswom.htm

Cerial, you have a good point, but I am stubborn; I wish to save souls not unlike that of ATA1, and as you can see, he has failed thus far to find a rebuttal of substance.

Cerial, you have a good point, but I am stubborn; I wish to save souls not unlike that of ATA1, and as you can see, he has failed thus far to find a rebuttal of substance. You listen here, you are not saving any souls, you do the same thing as the new church does, you embrace sinners with open arms, gays, fags, lesbians and say "it's ok, god loves you". The church today has twisted gods word to appeal to the masses of sinners, they will let every sinner in, won't encourage them to repent anything, say it's ok to sin, god loves you. The only thing they encourage is getting people to put money into the plate. Jesus Christ said the World will hate you for spreading my word, I have told the truth, I say the unvarnished truth written in the bible and as true as god is to his word, people hate me. You kylewaters are a false teacher, you and those like you who believe in the newage gospel are going straight to hell. Thank god your father is saved, too bad you taught him to become christian and becomed saved, and you who taught the good word is dammed. It's not too late, I listened to a recent audio of a man who went to hell, he is highly creditable, the major police department has written that he is a most trustworthy and honest person, even writing a letter or recommendation. This man's testimony is bulletproof, what he says is true and he proves it is also totally in alignment with the bible with over 300 scripture references. Only fools goto hell, fools make up 99% of the population, walk down the street, you can see nearly everyone only thinks of themselves, they are selfish sinners. Brand new about Bill Weise, the guy who sold this peoples house talks to them about his trip to hell. http://www.issuesineducation.org/audio/listen/1041.m3u kylewaters, read the bible, because you say the message I have been giving is unpopular and I have been totally unsuccessful in converting anyone, do you instead suggest I twist gods word like you and other false prophets to appeal to the masses, I think not. God says he will exchange our heavy burdens for light ones, those who are interested please pm me, but whatever you do, do not decide to believe a particular preacher because they fit with your world views such as begin gay is ok or lesbian. There is only one truth, one right and that is what the bible says. Bible says if you are gay you are going to hell unless you repent. I speak the truth, I do not use my own biases like others when speaking about gods word for I rad h word and speak from it. I do not adulterate the word like the majority do. God says the road is narrow, god uses this life to seperate the wheat from the chaff, most people are chaff, only the good wheat (christians) make through and avoid eternal damnation.

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you do the same thing as the new church does, you embrace sinners with open arms, gays, fags, lesbians and say "it's ok, god loves you". The church today has twisted gods word to appeal to the masses of sinners, they will let every sinner in, won't encourage them to repent anything, say it's ok to sin, god loves you. The only thing they encourage is getting people to put money into the plate. Jesus also said: Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. But you ignore this sacred yoga. The yoga which transforms one to be 'born of God'. The rite of baptism. Jesus said: And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. It does not say, "let him give away his own responsibility to the savior dying for them on the cross". But the church ignores and says all you need is to put your hands together and ask forgiveness for the blood of the lamb to cover you, and plead with the blood as the book of Revelations says people will. No one realizes that to be forgiven for crimes is not enough, we need to die to the cause of those crimes, for it is written: "Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin." If you comitt a crime, you are the servant of a crime, meaning that crime lived in you before you acted upon it! There is a sin which is an act, and there is a sin within you, and these are not the same.

ALL discussion of religion should be banned from this forum.

Vehcklox, sin is sin, don't differentiate, sin is sin. Why do you say yoga? That is in hindu religion, it is not Christian. The book of Jude is hard to understand, so don't go quoting off from it willynilly trying to prove a point. Just because you sin, or you sinned because you were the servant of sin makes no difference.

By "save souls", I mean from their own personal hells, constructed by themselves and generally a result of poor upbringing and childhood trauma. Helping others to free themselves of self-defeating behaviours certainly is not "saving souls" by your methodology, yet makes them happier and more functional in life. "you embrace sinners with open arms, gays, fags, lesbians and say "it's ok, god loves you"." ATA1 quote: "You need to forgive your brother alex. Luk 6:37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven" Good Luk. Sun Luk. Jesus also embraced sinners; Mary of Magdala was one of many. Regardless, I never said that I embrace sinners with open arms, though gaiety is not a sin, neither is a fag, especially left unsmoked. Lesbians are sinners just as much as you are, ATA1! Isn't it stated in the bible that we are all sinners? You make me laugh! I am not a false teacher, rather not a teacher at all. I am, however, a master debater. People hate you. . .they also hated Hitler, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein, Stalin who likewise spread "the truth". I do not know this "newage" of which you speak. "...you who taught the good word is dammed." Who are you is, ATA1, to say that I is damned? Only God can say that. "...read the bible, because you say the message I have been giving is unpopular..." ?? Is that a reason to read the bible? (which I already have) I have never said anything about a popularity contest. May I start misquoting you as well? "do you instead suggest I twist gods word like you and other false prophets to appeal to the masses, I think not." You are correct; nobody can hold a candle to your abilities at god-twisting. Not even Pat Robertson; But then again (and once again, you misrepresent me), I do not twist God's word at all. "Bible says if you are gay you are going to hell unless you repent." Prove it! "I speak the truth, I do not use my own biases like others " Oh, REALLY?? "speaking about gods word" Which gods? "for I rad h word" Yes, the h word rad indeed.