CHALLENGE FOR LOBSANG: IF YOU DO NOT SUCCEED TO KILL SELF...
You have to pick a date. If you do not kill yourself by that date, then you must give up any effort to kill yourself. I suggest December 15, 2008. If LOBSANG account is still posting by then, then you must agree to stop trying. In fact, to make it official, you should request that admins delete any more messages from LOBSANG mentioning wish to kill self. If LOBSANG account says that he is dead, then admins should disable that account. I predict you will still be posting after December 15, 2008.

Maybe...Maybe not. I really do not know. You see right now I hang on day by day. But if circumstances change. Like I run out of funds. Then that will be it. I mean there needs to be a precipitating factor. It is not really a date thing. And as far as the forum goes. I usually with forums one day for no reason just take them off my bookmarks and stop posting. So I will be off the forum in not too long anyway. I am starting to get tired of it. I mean the only thing that intrigues me is the crazy delusional people. I mean I may be screwed up. But I am not crazy. I mean this is the craziest forum I have ever seen. And that is for two reasons. The moderators are cool. And Alex does not have a harsh policy. Oh and also people are allowed to get off topic on the threads. So when you combine the crazy people with the relaxed rules of the forum it comes out great. And also I like the people because we can say nasty things to each other but not be all mad about it and be friends again after a while.

Who here is crazy? I see many people here indulging in crazy-sounding fantasies, but when anyone is challenged on it, they make some excuse or other that shows that they are not serious -- just as you seem to indulge in this suicide fantasy, but when anyone calls you on it, you show you are not serious. I am suggesting you either get serious, or give up the idea entirely. You have convinced nobody in all your posts that your life is that bad. Sure, some people say, go ahead kill yourself, but they say this because they are fed up with your posts, not because they believe your life is that bad. Let's change the challenge. If you cannot convince even one person here that your life is so bad by Dec 15, then you should never post here again about killing yourself, because it is just suicide spam at that point.

Well you see I am not trying to convince anyone of anything. That is not the point of this. The point is to diffuse my fear of death. To make it comfortable and normal. This is not about others but about me. I should have dies like 4 years ago. But I did not. But the point is as of now things have not fallen completely apart. But when I am in the position of no home or food. On that day things will be different. But on that day because I have vented on the forum I will have resolved my fear hopefully. You see I know there is no hope. But there is still a survival area in my mind reaching out for the possibility that there is hope. But there is really not. So by talking to you guys and arguing you are helping me come to terms with hope. Because you argue there is and I say there is not. And I will win all the arguments. You simply represent the part of my mind that hangs on. And it is delusional and must be convinced of the truth. So this is the process. When I talk to you I am actually talking to myself. You see I already know there is no hope. I can see the big picture. And these silly notions that there is must be reasoned away. Then any action taken can be in 100% clarity and peace.

Wrong. What you do with your life is your business, but when you fill thread after thread with suicide threats that is basically spam behavior, then the burden is on you to prove that your life is worthless, not on us to prove that it has value. Either convince ONE person here of it, or stop the spam. You haven't won a single argument in that regard. In fact I am probably the closest to believe you, in that I admit that part of your brain must die. No one else is even willing to concede that. If someone tells me "I have a terminal illness, I will be on life support and in deep pain for the rest of my life" then right away I will agree that person is right to take his life. You see, I am easy to convince with just a few sentences. But you have posted many pages and still fail to convince even me. So enough is enough -- either convince ONE person, or stop the suicide spam. That's a reasonable enough challenge. Why should anyone help you with this process when they don't believe you should do it?

What you fail to understand is that I am winning every argument. In my mind I am. What you think does not count. Only what i think. You have not given me one single reason to live. And especially one that has any substance. But this is about my mind and what I think. As long as I believe I win. That is all that matters. I think that you have the idea I am trying to get you to concede. I am not. I am trying to convince myself that I am right. It has nothing to do with convincing you. This is not a democracy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unXIRoOpHgM&feature=related

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Lobsang, if you could just have one thing, just one thing in your life back that could maybe stop you, what would it be? If you just had your wife and nothing else, would that be enough to keep you alive?

I don't understand why Lobsang is still alive why you don't kill yourself lobsang??

think about that: you can be happy forever in heaven with beautiful angels sucking your dick and Jesus masturbating in front of you!!! GO NOW

or stay here and suck alex's dick forever, like franco

not his message are spam, HE IS spam. he should delete himself from the earth forum

I am a star! I men then you have to delete Tall Girl stuff, SacJB's illness stuff, Hitler stuff. And as stated then there are the consequences. No this is a great forum. Just fine as it is. And people like when people are suffering and sad and dying. You like it. You want to see me die. You would enjoy it. I mean deep deep down. This is why you cannot give me one single reason to live. because there is not any. Look if I die or when. If you find out it is true it will make the forum even more interesting. You can talk for years about Lobsang. How good he was or bad. How you miss him or not. How he helped SacJB. It will be great for you. And SacJB will care less as long as he gets his problems fixed. But if I die before he does he will be all sad.