Boycott of Alex/Q-Ray/etc... Products

Boycott of Alex/Q-Ray/etc... Products
I posted before about boycotting Alex's products until he submits them to impartial testing but I want to explain here: 1. if you already use Alex products and you get benefits from it, please continue to do what works for you. 2. But if you are like me and Alex products do not work for you, or you are thinking of trying Alex products, I suggest we join together to boycott Alex products 3. I don't want to single out Alex products -- any product that offers fantastic claim along the line of Alex devices, such as QRay, etc... I suggest we not buy them as well until they submit to third party impartial testing. I believe the FDA and other agencies will not regulate against products such as alex's simply because the claims sound so amazing. They will say, "Why did you believe that?" and they will blame you instead of them for false advertising. So unfortunately we need something like this boycott to make sure the product is good. 4. I don't want this boycott to be confrontational. In fact, this is actually a friendly boycott, because if Alex gets good results from the unbiased testing, then he will know that everyone on his boycott is watching and will likely become good customers. Alex only is harmed financially if he cannot stand behind his product. It is Alex's choice to submit his product for testing, and it is only natural to be lax about it if he gets good revenue already. So why would Alex choose to put his products to the test unless he sees sales dropping off? I have many suggestions for how to test Alex products fairly, but of course I am no science expert, so I will leave it to them.

Well, we don't need Alex permission to do our own testing, however... it's difficult to do scientific testing on the magnetic devices, since their effect acts in the scale of months and years. A rigorous double-blind experimentation is likely impossible because the user can determine easily if the devices are a placebo or actually have magnets. So, if you want to boycott, I suggest you wear your own magnets rather than buying. Perhaps you did already? I think the pills should not be marketed without prior testing, but I don't regard them as useful as the original invention. BTW, I never bought anything from Alex, so I guess I'm already boycotting ;-)

A rigorous double-blind experimentation is likely impossible because the user can determine easily if the devices are a placebo or actually have magnets. You can substitute weaker magnets if need be, but in experiment it is probably better not to mention any magnet effect at all -- simply tell them to wear the rings as part of "circulation" therapy or something so the subjects will not expect magnets anyway. Can we test for immortality? that's a tough one. But Alex claims the rings will cure almost any disease or ailment, so that is a straightforward test. If terminal cancer patients get better with alex rings, but not from placebo rings, that is clear victory for alex. Maybe someone clever can figure out how to test for age-reversal.

he gives you 90 days to send them back........ you are quite professional here, which leads me to wonder who you really are?, In order to defend the FDA you have to have either very little knowledge of their inner workings or work for them....

he gives you 90 days to send them back........ you are quite professional here, which leads me to wonder who you really are?, In order to defend the FDA you have to have either very little knowledge of their inner workings or work for them.... Money back guarantee is all well and good but frankly many people either are lazy or ashamed to do so. Also, you are out shipping and handling costs usually. How many people buy exercise equipment with money back guarantees but never return regardless of their results? It is the same principle here. If Alex offers a full moneyback full satisfaction no questions asked guarantee on all products (including GP/CF even though some is used up) with shipping and handling paid for both ways, then the need for a boycott is much less urgent, but it is still a good incentive for alex or any other miracle inventors to improve his products. Thank you for saying I am professional but I am just an amateur tinkerer and inventor, just like Alex (Actually since Alex makes money off inventions, he is actually a professional, so I am not on that level). I do not defend the FDA; in fact what I am saying is FDA is negligent in cases like Alex. Only when people die and media panics do they seem to take notice. Hopefully no one will die from Alex products, but if he is not careful with the ingredients, who knows what can happen? For example, even something simple like peanuts, if alex puts a few in without labeling, someone who is severely allergic to peanuts can have a terrible reaction.

alex is probably a con artist or a nutcase because he's had over 10 years to show some evidence that they work, and he has not done it. Show me that they work, and I'll buy enough merchandise for my whole family.

I don't know about over there but here in Australia, there are heaps of products that contain magnets for sale - there are pillows, matress-covers, bracelets, necklaces, knee bandages - the list goes on and on. All of them claim to help relieve arthritis aches and pains as well as improved health and well-being. I guess my husband and I are lucky - Alex's rings work really well for us :) We shall actually be upgrading from normal rings to neo rings in the near future - my husband is looking forward to getting a set of neo rings to feel how much stronger they are :)

I don't know about over there but here in Australia, there are heaps of products that contain magnets for sale - there are pillows, matress-covers, bracelets, necklaces, knee bandages - the list goes on and on. All of them claim to help relieve arthritis aches and pains as well as improved health and well-being. I guess my husband and I are lucky - Alex's rings work really well for us :) We shall actually be upgrading from normal rings to neo rings in the near future - my husband is looking forward to getting a set of neo rings to feel how much stronger they are :) Yes there are many magnet products, but I don't know of any that promise immortality except for Alex's. I admire Alex's guts to say this, and also that he puts the design on the web for anyone to copy. But if he has guts to say this, he must also have the guts to back it up. If Alex products are truly superior, they need to be put to the test in a rigorous way. But I do not mean to single Alex out -- these other magnet devices should be tested too. In fact I think QRAY is much worse than Alex -- they charge more and are probably a bigger company, but they are clever and do not make big claims like immortality, so people believe them more easily. But just think, if Alex has the guts to put it to the test and the results are favorable, all the QRAY customers will look at that and say, "why do i waste money with QRAY when I can buy Alex products?" I can think of one improvement (I will not patent it, so Alex you can have it for free!) Make an adjustable dial to vary the magnet strength. This way people can experiment and optimize Alex's rings for themselves without having to buy multiple rings or make multiple devices. But neither QRAY or ALex is likely to make such improvements unless they see their sales go down.

I want to compile a list of easily testable claims Alex has for his products: 1. cures near-sightedness, blindness 2. cures AIDS, cancer 3. turns you into super mutant -- (to test this, do genetic sample before and after using the alex product) There are other claims like "gives you more energy" that is tougher to test because people's energy can fluctuate naturally, so it is hard to see if alex product is responsible. I am just looking for the claims you can do conclusive tests for. I don't remember all of them, and am not sure which claim goes for which product, so forumers, help me out and add to the list!

I thought about the problem for testing for immortality -- it's a tough one! But here is one way to do it: test the rings on elderly people in hospice care -- they are about to die from old age, and if the rings truly grant immortality, the death rates must drop to zero. People's apparent aging varies from person to person with or without rings so it is hard to tell if rings have an effect but death is a clear indication -- do you die? then rings did not work.

Alex here is the contact information for a hospice in San Francisco. They seem like an Eastern/Buddhist themed place, so I think they will be open to alternative therapy such as your rings: Address: Zen Hospice Project 273 Page Street San Francisco, CA 94102-5616 phone: 415.863.2910 fax: 415.863.1768 email: mail@zenhospice.org URL: http://www.zenhospice.org It may not be very scientific, but if you give them 50 pairs of rings and if 50 patients who wear them do not die, and in fact get better, then that is still a clear result and everyone must listen to you and you will get more orders for your products than you can handle!

This poll is stupid, it's too specific and the only options are to say 'yes' to your stupid boycott. I don't need to boycott him, that's just fucking dumb. I'm an educated consumer. I just won't buy anything I'm not sure is worth the investment of my money. Seeing as how I have zero money and I need to pay for surgery for my dog, any purchase would be just too substantial.

This poll is stupid, it's too specific and the only options are to say 'yes' to your stupid boycott. I don't need to boycott him, that's just fucking dumb. I'm an educated consumer. I just won't buy anything I'm not sure is worth the investment of my money. Seeing as how I have zero money and I need to pay for surgery for my dog, any purchase would be just too substantial. The point of the boycott is not a popularity contest for Alex products, it is to show how much money Alex stands to gain if he submits his products to independent testing. Alex is a business man, unless he sees the potential dollars he is losing by not testing his products, why should he bother? You cannot be an educated consumer of Alex products if there is no unbiased data. All the information regarding results with Alex products are anecdotal; it is frankly not much to go on. You may not have money now, but wouldn't you agree to spend as much money as you could if Alex products were proven by independent studies to live up to his extraordinary claims? I certainly would, and I believe others would as well, but unless Alex sees how much money he is missing out on, I don't believe he will ever test his products. You might be right that the options are too specific. I should have added an option to spend 1000 or $10,000 on his products. If they truly do what he says, then even 10,000 is worth it, wouldn't you say? People spend much more than that on costly cancer treatments, plastic surgery, etc... Basically, if you are even curious to see an independent study happen, I suggest you join the boycott. I really do not see any other way this can happen. If you have a better idea as to how to convince Alex to do it, please let us know.

Yep, Alex should get some proper testing done. Even though I have had god results with Alex's rings, I still feel that some sort of official testing should be done. Surely there is a way that Alex can get proper testing done and recorded. But then, Alex has got to want to get official testing done. That's the hard part :roll:

But then, Alex has got to want to get official testing done. That's the hard part :roll: Well, Alex has stated here many times how he is motivated by money, so Alex needs to see that he will either: a) lose a lot of money by not testing b) gain a lot of money by testing or preferably, both. By the way, I think it's a little funny that ads for this forum sometimes bring up Q-RAY products. Alex may think, "since QRAY does not test, why should I test?" That's a good point, and so I think to be fair, we should hold QRAY to the same boycott.

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