Frank, il mio readin sta a venire ?

I stop general readings. It's too big, I should write many pages to give a precise full readings. But I will answer some aimed asking as "will I have success in my profession?", "is good to marry for me?" and such

Ah C`mon, do mine like the others as your last reading, would have been interesting to read it and i was the first to say yes for a reading, you did the others but not mine :cry: Do mine like you did the others as your last reading please. :wink:

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believe that you can worship and pray to saints, it is wrong. Who said I believe in worshipping the saints? Now you put words into my mouth, the whole point of my posting was to show how God is worshipped through his creation, and that not unlike priests, there are intercessors for us from the beyond. I was advocating prayer. Lets see what the bible has to say about this from a few random excerpts (out of many), where we find PEOPLE PRAYING TO EACH OTHER: Genesis 13:9 "Is not the whole land before thee? separate thyself, I pray thee, from me: if thou wilt take the left hand, then I will go to the right; or if thou depart to the right hand, then I will go to the left." (Abraham is speaking to Lot) Genesis 27:21 "And Isaac said unto Jacob, Come near, I pray thee, that I may feel thee, my son, whether thou be my very son Esau or not." Exodus 5:3 "And they said, The God of the Hebrews hath met with us: let us go, we praythee, three days' journey into the desert, and sacrifice unto the LORD our God; lest he fall upon us with pestilence, or with the sword." Numbers 10:31 "And he said, Leave us not, I pray thee; forasmuch as thou knowest how we are to encamp in the wilderness, and thou mayest be to us instead of eyes." Joshua 7:19 "And Joshua said unto Achan, My son, give, I pray thee, glory to the LORD God of Israel, and make confession unto him; and tell me now what thou hast done; hide it not from me." This type of thing can be found throughout the entire bible. how can you say god is not there. Wherever the word of God has been deformed, so is God's association with them. How can you say God is there? With innumerable sects. of so-called Christianity, and sub-sects splitting off from among them, who have taken the liberty of censoring whatever scriptures they see fit, from the Gnostic texts, to the Catholic bible, to the Protestant bible, to the Mormon bible and so on, to the point where any genuine seeker has to literally become a scholar just to pick a church!! Persecution of esotericism isn't isolated to Christianity alone, we find this sort of thing happening in all the other major world religions. Whether it's the sufis of Islam, Shaolin monks, Quakers, etc. Kabbalah, and esotericism is always an offense to the ignoramuses. It is a rock of offense. The rock Jacob laid his head on to see angels rising and falling, is the same cornerstone that the builders rejected. Sex, esotericism, and Jesus are synonymous, they are the rock of offense. Isaiah 8:14 "And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem." I have seen your Gnostic website which you tout people to visit, I have seen it, it is no good. It is a mixture of alot of religions into one, Hinduism and other occult. You will not be saved believing that doctrine. I've already thoroughly discussed the bible's scripture related to what is entailed by 'being saved'. The trinity is the same in Brahamanism (Hindu) as it is in Judeo-Christianity. Brahma (father), Vishnu (son, chokmah, christ), Shiva. The pantheon in Hinduism likewise reflects the kabbalist tree of life (not unlike the Nordic tree of yggdrasil, the tarot is synonymous with Celtic runes etc.). The only real discrepency is that a mistranslation in their ancient texts causes them to think that cows are sacred. But by comparison with how Christian doctrine has been mutilated, this is a small thing. I would recommend this video as a short referrence to how Judeo-Christianity is referred in light of Brahamic-Buddhist traditions.

Exo 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Exo 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; God says you are not to bow down to them. Lev 26:1 Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God. Deu 5:8 Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth: Deu 27:15 Cursed be the man that maketh any graven or molten image, an abomination unto the LORD, the work of the hands of the craftsman, and putteth it in a secret place. And all the people shall answer and say, Amen. You will be cursed if you make or worship these graven images. Isa 45:20 Assemble yourselves and come; draw near together, ye that are escaped of the nations: they have no knowledge that set up the wood of their graven image, and pray unto a god that cannot save. Mary, Saint Paul, pope are all idols and they can not save a person. Hab 2:18 What profiteth the graven image that the maker thereof hath graven it; the molten image, and a teacher of lies, that the maker of his work trusteth therein, to make dumb idols? Ok I think that should pretty much clear it up, you can not say anything against it, I can see what angel you will use to counteract gods word. I pray thee Huh? what are you talking about? Translated into easier english means "I pray that you will or I pray that I will", they don't mean they are praying to one another. who have taken the liberty of censoring whatever scriptures they see fit, from the Gnostic texts, to the Catholic bible, to the Protestant bible, to the Mormon bible Well that takes the cake, Do you really think the Mormon bible is legitimate? That is Satans plan, to put so much religion out there that it confuses people. Really this is a joke Vehcklox, do you really consider the Mormon bible as god's word? Luk 13:23 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, Luk 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. Vehcklox, the straight gate is the bible, what you believe is bulky and incorrect and not straight. Luk 13:25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: If you do not know god, he will say he does not know you, you must jujst read the bible and believe what god says in it, no other way, no other books. Luk 18:42 And Jesus said unto him, Receive thy sight: thy faith hath saved thee. Not only faith in god can save you but also heal, you need faith, not any old faith, but specific faith of believing in Jesus Christ as your lord and savior and trusting in him that he will save you only. Act 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. You need to call on the Name of the Lord and you will be saved. Act 15:11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they. I believe that because I believe the bible, I believe god, god does not lie. Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Vehcklox, please I really like you and I would love you to become christian. You must truely believe the bible as it is the word of god, what god says is true and he wants to save you, but you have to believe, you have to have the faith and willpower to believe.

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.......they have no knowledge that set up the wood of their graven image, and pray unto a god that cannot save. Whats the difference between someone who builds a statue or a cross out of symbolic veneration, and someone who builds one to venerate it?? (the image) THEY HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE (they don't know the difference between the representation and the actuality of what it's symbolizing, or the vicarious nature of God who works through those who are his own) This might come as a shock to you, but Pope John Paul II isn't the God of the Catholics. Neither will eating pork turn you into a pig. I have yet to see anyone become a pig after eating it. I've eaten it before, and when I look in the mirror, I still look perfectly human. Speaking of knowledge, friend. You're the one who sits here touting verses from the followers of Jesus, who themselves claimed to declare "what they've seen" and "what they've heard", but it's a mystery to me why you're passing this along, because you haven't seen Jesus's miracles, or heard the esoteric meaning of his parables. You have no supernatural experiences, but insist on rattling on about hand-me-down preaching from the Fundy pulpits. So you HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE either, Gnosis (Greek), esoteric knowledge, personal experience (true faith). So, why don't you take down those graven images on your sig, which you: "have no knowledge" of. Case in point. Jesus asked: what father would give his child thistles to eat? Haven't you noticed no-one here is hungry for the meal you've been offering? As it is written, there is the milk of the father's word and there is the meat. I give his children meat, and you're still peddling babyfood. Hab 2:18 What profiteth the graven image that the maker thereof hath graven it; the molten image, and a teacher of lies, that the maker of his work trusteth therein, to make dumb idols? This verse most clearly speaks to the nature of the intelligence of the graven idol. Which is? Zippo, zero, nadda. A "dumb" idol. Referring to the trust someone places in 'it'. People make statues of John Paul to revere the man as a reminder of him, not to personify and justify their imaginations through the forming of an inanimate object. Big difference there. Huh? what are you talking about? Translated into easier english means "I pray that you will or I pray that I will", they don't mean they are praying to one another. So you're saying context and semantics are made relevant based on translation and interpretation? Pretty much what I was saying before. Obviously you didn't catch the part that in the bible, the word: 'pray' is being used in the context that someone can ask something of someone else. Does it matter that the petition is made to someone from the beyond? God has said, his children are Gods and the scripture cannot be broken. What is important is that they are his, that he is the "most high" and all worship belongs to him. do you really consider the Mormon bible as god's word? No I don't, and I don't believe those other bibles haven't been adulterated either. You completely miss alot of the points I'm making for lack of comprehension of the things I've already said. There's a difference between the Catholic bible and Protestant, because the Protestants censored a few texts which are present in the Catholic bible. Meanwhile the Catholics censored the Gnostic texts. There IS NO authenticity of trustable lineage for Christian doctrine, because by saying you believe in the bible is saying you believe in one form of censorship but not another. But the form of censorship you DO believe in, comes from the organization you DON'T believe in who came to the conclusion of censoring the Gnostic texts on the basis that they were being guided by the holy spirit, as is expected to be the case for the Papal succession of the line of Peter. Meanwhile, the referrences I've made to Jesus's teachings on tantric yoga give sufficient evidence that the Gnostic texts (the gospel of St. Thomas I quoted from in particular) have an irremovable relevance to understanding what it really means to be a Christian, esotericly, by having eyes to see the esoteric symbolism present there. I've covered this full circle. If you do not know god, he will say he does not know you, you must jujst read the bible and believe what god says in it, no other way, no other books. I've been quoting the bible this entire time. You have more faith in your denomination than you do to wisdom. Not only faith in god can save you but also heal I was healed from many emotional turmoils, by learning of pranayama yoga and meditation which were NEVER resolved after many years of being a "faithful" fundamentalist Christian. On the contrary, because of my confusions about the contradictions in Fundamentalism it hurt my situation even more. Gnosis has taught me the etymology and root origin of the word 'faith', and the trust I put in my new education is backed by my own research, not just my research but the fruits of my practicing. Act 2:21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. And what is this quote referring to? Saving one's soul? Immediately before that, we see this refers to prophecy concerning the last days when all manner of smoke, fire, blood and havoc will break loose. When I look at this, I can't help but notice the context would be: 'saved from the destruction of the apocalypse, or comming destruction of that age'. In Gnosis, it is taught that those who have been born again (created the soul through the work in chastity) and dissolved at least half of the ego, will be saved from the day of the fire and the smoke. But does this make sense in relation to the text? Lets have a look: "15For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day. 16But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; 17And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: 18And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: 19And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: 20The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come: 21And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved." Who are the ones who will know to call on the name of the lord? The more the ego remains alive, the less likely the person is to be able to prophesy, have visions or dreams (propheticly), meaning that even if the lord poured out his spirit on the heathen, it doesn't mean they'll be forewarned of the comming destruction. THINK for a moment. It is because of the signs and wonders due to the gifts of the holy spirit, that the people (who have been performing the buddhist annhialation) will KNOW to be inclined to call upon his name to be saved in the first place. Act 15:11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they. Even to have been taught the gospel, to have it, is a grace alone. Many graces, healings, and temporary pardonings of karma, are given to those who earnestly want to work on themselves in this life, or the next ones. It is said: great masters help those who work on themselves. Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. I talked alot about this word: 'believe' and the deeper connotation of it, likewise of the words: 'faith', 'chastity' and 'virginity'. Heed now, that it is also written: James 2:26 "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." Luke 21:19 "In your patience possess ye your souls" Revelation 22:14 "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city" Note that those who have 'earned' the right to the tree of life, after abiding in the law (fundamentalism) gain it, the tree (esoteric knowledge). Matthew 4:4 "But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." Works, patience, baptism of water (Samaritan woman: what kind of water? Jesus: GO CALL YOUR SPOUSE) 1 John 3:9- makes it starkly clear, nobody who is born of God is in sin, why? Because their seed remains in them. This among other verses makes it impossible to be married without kundalini yoga, it's that simple. EVERY WORD that proceedeth, not this verse, or that verse, but the totality of the context of the word (which can still be found in the bible, which I DO believe in, thank you)

Vehcklox wrote: This might come as a shock to you, but Pope John Paul II isn't the God of the Catholics. Neither will eating pork turn you into a pig. I have yet to see anyone become a pig after eating it. I've eaten it before, and when I look in the mirror, I still look perfectly human Well done - now ATA will come back with some disgusting pics of some pigs with disease just because he cant win and take what is the truth from you.

francofiori2004 if you don'tmind , do me a reading pls. dob:30/01/1990 time:10 :50pm place of birth :johor thanks.

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Let me now take at last, an example from the very person who is responsible for presenting that law to the people, regarding graven images. What did Moses do in order to heal the people of snakebite in the wilderness? He lifted up a bronze serpent on a pole. A graven image, which is known as the nehusthan. There is a story I came accross, which is interesting, and portrays the entirety of the context here. The Jewish lay people, for a long time secretly worshippped the image of nehusthan, eventually Jewish priests caught wind of this and threw away all representations of Moses's nehusthan because people were offering incense to it. So what does this boil down to? Do you erect an image for the sake of the image? Or for God's sake? That is all. The nehusthan (image) saves no one, not even from snakes or vipers. The nehusthan, not unlike the caduceus of Hermes, represents the spiritual workings of the spine in relation to kundalini yoga. The nehusthan is a symbol for what saves people. As it is written, just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so too Jesus Christ was lifted up. So Jesus Christ (who lived for 33 years, the same number of vertebrae in the spine) who died on the hill named Golgatha (place of the skull, the spine leads to the skull) is synonymous with the Nehusthan, and as it is written, salvation is of the Jews. As it is written Jesus was surprised that Niccodemus, the rabi of Jerusalem did not know the way of salvation. The way of salvation predates the life of Jesus. Islam is as old as the stars, Al-Chemy has endured and will endure forever and ever.