ASTRAL PROJECTION MACHINES With there being so many AP machines sold, which do you feel is the best out there to buy that would garrentee a forced obe or ap?
myfantasia- 12-26-2008
I didn't know that you had to have a machine to have obe
Clint902- 12-26-2008
Do those machines really work?
violetsun- 12-26-2008
Yes, they work, i have an hdr from Steven Gibbs and i travelled in astral in the future
wwfjdraw- 12-26-2008
where do you buy an hdr? how much is it? i did a search on google. for an astral projection machine and got too many results to just pick one.
violetsun- 12-26-2008
searh for hdr + steven gibbs , he builds the machine , and he is the only one, there are other sites which sell similar machine but if you want the real deal , go for him.
jc- 12-26-2008
violetsun wrote:
Yes, they work, i have an hdr from Steven Gibbs and i travelled in astral in the future
So you can do this any time ? Always works for you ? and can you go anyplace you want ?
violetsun- 12-27-2008
First i read the posts made by Yu, he used an hdr, at first i didn't believe him, then i searched for this hdr and Steven Gibbs and found the www.timechatter.com site, you can go as far as 500 years both in future and in past, and i have experienced a lucid dream in the future, its insane the amount of tech they have in 2112 .
Dr. Phelps- 12-27-2008
First i read the posts made by Yu, he used an hdr, at first i didn't believe him, then i searched for this hdr and Steven Gibbs and found the www.timechatter.com site, you can go as far as 500 years both in future and in past, and i have experienced a lucid dream in the future, its insane the amount of tech they have in 2112 .
If you think about something enough before you go to sleep you often dream about it. What made you decide to believe it was actually time travel rather than just a normal lucid dream?
wowchung- 12-27-2008
I looked it up it's $360 and no guarantees if I wanted to learn I'd stick with a book, or something. Do you go to astral planes or just stay on earth in the future some people who practice AP say they can go anywhere?
wwfjdraw- 12-27-2008
I don't want to do any time traveling, just ap, obe....thats it.
I want it it be forced, something that I could plug or hook me up to, and turn a switch... thats all.
Clint902- 12-27-2008
I want to go back in time to put right what once went wrong.
violetsun- 12-27-2008
You can't you need a vortex point with an hdr to do that and even if you had the canche to change that happening, it won't be reflected in your current timeline.
There are a fixed numbers of timelines, actually time behaves like a web if you pull a node, the web stirs towards it, but due to the principle of conservation of energy, you cannot change the timeline you left
Gene Dwi- 12-27-2008
I don't think time exists. It's really a measure of age. And age is just a change in matter. Humans watch matter decay. We watch our bodies or our lives decay before our eyes and think this is the way of the world. But really all that exists is matter and energy. We have little control over the flow of that. All we can do is measure it and call it time.
Whether there are other dimensions, I could not say. But there may be dimensions that are equal to 1955 or whatever date you wish. The key is knowing how to tune into that dimension. Then you'll be there.
But generally, people don't wish to travel time. They wish for thier health to return or thier lost love, whatever that love takes the form of. Lost love could be anything or anyone. People want to return to a place of being whole, or feeling happy again.
Clint902- 12-27-2008
The only place I'd want to visit is in the past although I wouldn't mind jumping ahead a day or two to get the powerball numbers.
