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frank2008- 03-18-2007
ABout resurrection
Plejarans ETs at figu.org tell that a spirit waits 100 years before reincarnating after death. So I think we can resurrect same spirit if body is the same.

TwistinUnderSchizophrenia- 03-18-2007

And how exactly does he know that it takes 100 years for a spirit to reincarnate?

frank2008- 03-18-2007

PLejarans (aliens) know it. Usually a spirit waits in the beyond for same span of time of his last life, plus an half. So it's from 50 to 150 years about for earthlings.

frank2008- 03-18-2007

BTW, Plejarans philosophy, ideas about Creation and God (they don't believe to religions and to a God who answers prayers, they only believe to Natural Laws) and about overpopulation ar very similar to Alex CHiu's. They are humans (they are basically our ancestors) very similar to us, but they live 1000 years instead of 80 (maybe they have invented the Rings, too?)

wowchung- 03-18-2007

and you 100% believe in these aliens/ET's?

frank2008- 03-18-2007

I think it's probably true: too many photos (never proved false) and details to be totally an hoax. More about it: http://www.theyfly.com/ www.billymeier.com www.figu.org http://www.gaiaguys.net http://www.gaiaguys.net/Answers.html Or google "billy meier"

TwistinUnderSchizophrenia- 03-18-2007

Riiiiight.

Jotun- 03-19-2007

The one thing I find strange about these Pleiadians is that multiple people have witnessed/encountered the same being(s) -- i.e name, appearence, subjects they speak on -- without any contact between themselves, and with great geographical seperations. I don't exactly buy it but I find it quite interesting. I only went over this Billy Meier guy's stuff in a short time, so someone who is better versed in him please correct me if I'm wrong, but he says that these aliens gave him permission to photograph/film them for GOOD proof that extraterrestrials exist, yeah? All I saw were incredibly short, uninspiring videos and questionable photos at best. Standard fare for UFO hoaxes and misidenfication of normal objects/phenomenon. If they gave him permission to document them for the purpose of giving hard proof of their existence wouldn't he and they have made it... you know...undeniably convincing?

frank2008- 03-19-2007

Have you found photos on sites correctly? There are hundreds of amazing clear pics showing space-ships, none proved false or manipulated. They are 40 years old photos and video and billy meier is a one-armed and poor man.. BTW , Billy Meier is the ONLY one who had contact and spoke to Pleidians. Others who claim such are fraud (like merciniak and people channeling and so on) Photos: http://www.figu.org/us/ufology/index.htm (in his books he showed many more pics and at home he had even more, something like thousands, even if a lot have been stolen or destroyed by man in black and envious people and such)

Jotun- 03-19-2007

Let's leave the photos aside for one moment, we can come back to them. I'm interested in your opinions on the videos. Here are my opinions. I have no experience in touching up videos or anything so these are just my thoughts. http://www.billymeier.com/archives/Wedding_Cake_ship.mpg - This one is a completely static UFO. Presuming it's not superimposed on the video in post-processing, it's right in front of a tree. You could stick a cardboard cutout on a pole or whatever onto a branch to get this video. http://www.steelmarkonline.com/media/06-12-75_Tree_Circling_Ship_Near_Hinwil_(Low-Res).mpg - Look at the way this UFO moves. Does it remind you of something dangling from a string? http://www.steelmarkonline.com/media/03-18-76_Hasenboel_ob_Fischenthal_1_(Low-Res).mpg - This one is relatively static too but it has some rocking motion. To me this looks like something on a string dangled in front of a light and casting a shadow onto a blank surface. http://www.steelmarkonline.com/media/03-18-76_Hasenboel_ob_Fischenthal_2_(Low-Res).mpg - A continuation of the last one. This one is a touch more convincing because it has little lights and specular highlights at times. I'd say that's post-processing or some trick which I can't think of. These 4 videos were taken from 1975 to 1981. Star Wars was released in 1977. Now that may seem like something silly to mention, because Star Wars had a very large budget and incredibly skilled people working on it, but Star Wars also had spectacular special effects and was lengthy. These videos are neither spectacular nor lengthy and I firmly believe one or a few person(s) with some intermediate tools and knowledge could produce these back in that time frame.

TwistinUnderSchizophrenia- 03-19-2007

The first video posted is the only one that worked for me. The rest brought up "Page Cannot Be Displayed". But in the video I saw, it looked so fake. There's no way that was footage of a real UFO.

Jotun- 03-19-2007

I think URLs have a max length or something. If you copy the whole URL then paste it into your address bar it should work.

TwistinUnderSchizophrenia- 03-19-2007

Oh ok. I see what happened there. I guess I should have looked closer. But yeah, they all look completely fake.

jc- 03-19-2007

Of course they are fake, just look at this one, its so pathetic its abvious how the small object is on a string going side to side wobbly - i would think a UFO would stay CONTROLLED and STABLE STRAIGHT flying around.. These 2 clips at the MID page shows someone dangling the UFO looking object from a string on a small made landscape. http://www.theyfly.com/photos/photos.htm#movie

frank2008- 03-19-2007

No no. Wait a moment. They are not fake. All videos (and pics) have been examined by skeptics. You know, you can do analysis with computer and easily find out it. Nobody could prove they are fake or even reproduce them with models. Check here about it: http://www.theyfly.com/newsflash5/tree.htm http://www.theyfly.com/PDF/PhotoAnalysis3.pdf And look at trees and clouds, they are real, and the ufo has been proven through computer analysis to be a real 3-dimensional object. So it's 7 metres in diameter! There's no string on the ufo moving around the tree, how could you move something so big through a string?? Maybe nasa or spielberg could do something similar in 1978, but here we are speaking of 1 poor switzerland one-armed man! He had 21 attacks to his life because of he spoke about it, so he gained nothing. Now he live alone, no contact to nearly everybody, he is not a sect-leader or such.